Before we get further sidetracked into another rabbit hole let's look at some options and see what's possible.

If we were to change some of the current regs-limits we have, what would be the absolute first thing to do before others? Gotta eat the elephant one bite at a time.

-- Legitimate check-in system like in other states, with a short window - 24/48 hours - report via phone or computer for a confirmation number instead of the voluntary thing we have now?

-- Tighten up doe limits and/or days to shorter periods? (Possible, desired by many)

-- Overhaul the regs/limits completely? (Unlikely)

-- 1-buck limit and season doe limit? (Unlikely, though desired by many)

-- Some or all of the above on the state managed WMAs?

Let's hear some legit solutions.

do we need to do something, probably. The problem is anytime goverment is involved, it usually makes it worse.

If there was/is ever a doe limit. I am against doe days, would however be for a doe limit. Accomplish's the same thing but allows more freedom.

Guys, not all land is equal. No matter how hard you try some places will hold more deer and produce bigger bucks. It always seems to be the neighbor that is killing all the deer. Maybe the neighbor's land holds more deer. Maybe the neighbor thinks his population is too high. If the neighbor is shooting deer every weekend and they keep coming back having the state tell him he can only kill 1 buck and 2 doe a year doesn't guarantee that all the extra deer on his land will start staying on your land.

I don't care what the neighbor has on his land. It's bigger than my land, my neighbors land and his neighbors neighbor. My position is in general the state has declining numbers of deer for any number of reasons. I don't have a scientific survey. I have anecdotal experience of living, hunting and driving the whole state quite often for the last 20 years. It's the state's duty to track our natural resource and make changes to regulations accordingly. Will those changes be perfect for your specific property? For your specific area? Who knows. Will it stop every outlaw? Will it be perfect? Absolutely not.

For the record when I was a kid I couldn't shoot everything we saw. I loved it anyway. We didn't see deer every trip, but I enjoyed the hell out of it when we did

thank God that he createx folks like you and obamer to keep us dummies straight.

I only kill as many deer as I intend to eat. I have to admit it kind of ticks me off to hear of someone who just kills for sport and gives away all he shoots. I don't see the point.

I think that's the whole reason we don't need or want too many regulations. Why should I be able to impose my morals on you or why should you impose yours on me.

Just leave things alone! They are working pretty good like they are. Any change will just cause more expense to the hunter and less enjoyment.

This would be the first thing on my list:
-- Tighten up doe limits and/or days to shorter periods? (Possible, desired by many)

I guess next on my list would be:

-- Legitimate check-in system like in other states, with a short window - 24/48 hours - report via phone or computer for a confirmation number instead of the voluntary thing we have now?

I am against any further limits on bucks especially since if we back off the does I see no need in it.

That's funny but I agree with the feller .

Speak for yourself because they ain't working worth a piss around these parts.....

IF ,,, you have enough acres

All I know is this .. I don't care what you guys decide about harvest records , bag limits , abtler restrictions, maybe I was wrong for the good of the majority on this subject earlier . But I know this for a fact, predators coyotes, coydogs, coywolfs, managy fawn eating 4 legged bastages . Call em what you want , our current regulations , combined with no state effort to keep predators at bay, urbinization from industrilazation, ( which we may not have to worry about if we keep sending jobs overseas) loss of agriculture . EHD CWD , and all other things that I haven't thought about , together will eventually have its way with the whitetail. Your right Not all land is created equal , I hate regulation , but a very serious problem is slowly creeping into deer hunting.

I've got more questions .

1. When did the quail hunters first start noticing a decline in birds ?
2 , how long did it take before it was no longer enjoyable to hunt them , how long did this take ?
3 . What is the history of fur prices in the south ?
4 . What is the popularity of trapping now compared to 20, 30, 40 years ago ?
5 . How many hunted quail through the 60s 70s 80s and was there an exsplosion in popularity more hunters ?

I don't know the answers to these questions just merely speculating .


I understand quail and whitetail are very diffrent animals , but I think it's a fair comparrisom

So should all regulations be done away with and If you own a spot of land you can hunt it any time of the year, kill all you want per day/year with no limitations?

I have 3 nephews, only 1 went hunting. After his day of hunting he was done. The idea was awesome but the work was not. He seen some really great duck hunting and seen deer that afternoon and had no desire to kill any of them.

Never ever wanted to go again. I asked another nephew what he wanted to hunt. Still can't get him to go after anything he'd like. He fishes with his granddad and that is it.

Kids of today are much different and have numerous activities that compete for their attention.

Any of my 3 nephews would rather go to a sporting event, watch it on TV or play games. That's about it for them, they'd rather rake leaves than go hunting. It's too cold, too wet and way too early.

Hate to say it but times have changed.

I've also noticed overall hunting license sales are said to be down yet the number of state duck stamp purchases have increased almost 9,000 over the past few years.

Duck hunting has become the COOL thing to do, not deer hunting.

Ha my wife's nephew from FL come up to duck hunt and squirrel hunt. Bought a 22 and everything, he hated it. Looked like fun on TV but not in reality to him.

I think this is more of a reason to make sure to preserve wildlife populations , with less young people who gives two chits about it, we will have less people in the future standing up to lobby to the people who can make a difference to see to it that we preserve it. Why not use smart regulations, to better the outdoors for all hunters . We don't have to restrict antler harvest , cutback on does harvested yes , not in favor of doe days , let me hunt them when I want to during season . I think predator control would be a very good investment and it wouldn't cost much money to promote trapping and removal . Will there be scammers and crooks sure . But with smart regulations such as price setting for pelts, this will be minimal , and who gives a shit if someone traps a Yote in GA or MS and brings him over and collects our bounty in Alabama . We just got good neighbors helping out . And for the record I don't stand to benefit from any of this nor does anyone I know other than the fact that I believe it would make a difference if put in place and left in place and monitored and adjusted in the years to come as needed .

Looks like public land!

I was just curious what your situation was, because you and I seem to always disagree on regulations.

This forum is the only forum I have ever even participated in . Frankly because I haven't ever given a damn about most things I find people taking about on the Internet. I read post on here for nearly a year and never really commented on much . I got a few things I'd like to say about things that I have observed on here.

1. This is a mighty fine internet hang out .
2. I damn sure don't know as much as a lot of you guys, and I am learning everyday myself .
3. There are some pretty smart guys on here .
4. We have had 25 pages of discussion on some crooked retired game warden , concerning improperly charging 3 young boys with what appears to be a crime they did not commit, (Not that this issue is or was not important) but let's hear everyones honest opinion on these issues . Regulation of antlerless deer harvest and Predator control

I'm going to back track and take back what I said earlier in this thread about antler restrictions because Clem made a valid point . Some peoples needs are greater than others and some propertys just don't grow large deer . And this dont have to be no pissing match about whos right and wrong . Just a debate for the good of all .

Antler restrictions IMO are not the answer even if the majority's goal was to grow big bucks. Implementing a real tag system that was enforceable, and reducing buck harvest, would be the best state wide answer IMO.

Now, I'm not saying that I'm all for that, I think 3 each is fine for most, I would like to see an enforceable means of tagging implemented.

As far as predators, People gripe about coyotes a lot, but I know places that are slap loaded with deer and have a lot of coyotes. Habitat and trigger control are the keys.