No argumenting or anger here. Just debating. And any "you" is in general terms, not a specific person.

As for "need," this cuts to the crux of the issue, IMO. Who is Bob, or Joe, or the DCNR, or anyone else out there to tell me or Thaddeus or Chuck or Charlie or Troy what we "need" to be doing on our property including the number of deer we "need" each year?

I don't need more than two or three, because my wife doesn't like venison. But I have a good friend with two kids and they eat at least a dozen deer a year. Last year he killed and processed 13 and they ran out in late summer. He probably will put up at least 15 this year. They don't buy meat at the store and have a giant garden. So their need is greater than someone else's. Yet someone would incorrectly say "You don't "need" more than three or four a year." So it shouldn't be on someone else to decide what that family needs.

I know of a hunting tract with some truly screwed-up bucks. Not just one, but multiples at different ages. Their antlers are messed up so it's (with almost certainty) a genetic deal. So the hunter either must shoot does and 2 of his 3 legal bucks and then wait a year, or bring in other hunters (which he may not want to do), or do nothing at all, or hunt illegally to take care of what he sees as a legitimate issue on his property. And yet because people say "You don't need more than three bucks a season, and one must be x-size" then that guy is hamstrung.

Those are exceptions to the general rule, though, I suspect.