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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: IDOT]
#1465231
09/29/15 08:57 AM
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Tampa
Beer Belly
Freak of Nature
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Well, God IS big enough to do whatever He wants. Always has been, always will be.
That is called HUMAN REASONING. And that is what is going on with the "all those solar systems, planets, galaxies, etc. etc.", speculative/probability analysis. And the point Straycat was making is this: #1 we need to be aware that there is such a thing as HUMAN REASONING and there is such a thing as BIBLICAL REASONING/WORLDVIEW. #2 They are not the same. #3 They are rarely if ever in accord. #4 For a believer in Christ, the person should be subscribing to the Biblical worldview first and foremost, really always. The Bible does not leave room for space aliens/life (meaning intelligent life as in other people out there) whatsoever. And you cannot legitimately apply HUMAN REASONING that is based on pure speculation to refute Scripture. Now, I grew up believing in UFOs, space aliens, etc. When I was a kid I collected UFO magazines, got into astronomy, and would be the first to say that with all the solar systems, planets and galaxies out there that there MUST be other life (people) out there. I even built models of space ships, flying saucers etc. Then as I grew up, learned more science and especially learned more Scripture, I realized that that was all fun and fanciful thinking - and was not real science and was certainly not something supported by Scripture. But as I said before, there will come a point when there is a great global deception, and it is very possible that there will be a space alien "highly super evolved man/people " will show up and be presented as our saviors and the AntiChrist could be claimed to be such a person. That could very well be an aspect of the demonic deception that is coming (we already have massive global demonic deception, not just the supernatural part yet). What is space? I am not sure, but the man/people global decepticons made it from demonic deceptive science. Or so it appears.
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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: 300Ruger]
#1465240
09/29/15 09:12 AM
09/29/15 09:12 AM
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Posts: 11,106
coffee county
goodman_hunter
Booner
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Booner
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I always wondered why god sabatoged them worker in Babel, but let us build a dang space ship.
"A moment of realization is worth a thousand prayers"
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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: Beer Belly]
#1465246
09/29/15 09:16 AM
09/29/15 09:16 AM
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Posts: 3,800
Smith Lake
300Ruger
OP
10 point
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10 point
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Smith Lake
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Well, God IS big enough to do whatever He wants. Always has been, always will be.
That is called HUMAN REASONING. And that is what is going on with the "all those solar systems, planets, galaxies, etc. etc.", speculative/probability analysis. And the point Straycat was making is this: #1 we need to be aware that there is such a thing as HUMAN REASONING and there is such a thing as BIBLICAL REASONING/WORLDVIEW. #2 They are not the same. #3 They are rarely if ever in accord. #4 For a believer in Christ, the person should be subscribing to the Biblical worldview first and foremost, really always. The Bible does not leave room for space aliens/life (meaning intelligent life as in other people out there) whatsoever. And you cannot legitimately apply HUMAN REASONING that is based on pure speculation to refute Scripture. Now, I grew up believing in UFOs, space aliens, etc. When I was a kid I collected UFO magazines, got into astronomy, and would be the first to say that with all the solar systems, planets and galaxies out there that there MUST be other life (people) out there. I even built models of space ships, flying saucers etc. Then as I grew up, learned more science and especially learned more Scripture, I realized that that was all fun and fanciful thinking - and was not real science and was certainly not something supported by Scripture. But as I said before, there will come a point when there is a great global deception, and it is very possible that there will be a space alien "highly super evolved man/people " will show up and be presented as our saviors and the AntiChrist could be claimed to be such a person. That could very well be an aspect of the demonic deception that is coming (we already have massive global demonic deception, not just the supernatural part yet). What is space? I am not sure, but the man/people global decepticons made it from demonic deceptive science. Or so it appears. Would you say that physics falls into the same demonic deception category? I'm not getting sideways with you or anything, I'm just trying to get a perspective as to where science stands as a whole from a Biblical perspective.
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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: 300Ruger]
#1465312
09/29/15 10:08 AM
09/29/15 10:08 AM
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Fayette Co.
hollywud20
Interwebs Genius
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Interwebs Genius
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We think our universe is the only universe. We don't even know where it begins or ends but there could very well be as many universes as there are galaxies.
You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.
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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: 300Ruger]
#1465394
09/29/15 11:18 AM
09/29/15 11:18 AM
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Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
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Montgomery
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[quote=Clem]
Well, God IS big enough to do whatever He wants. Always has been, always will be.
That is called HUMAN REASONING. And that is what is going on with the "all those solar systems, planets, galaxies, etc. etc.", speculative/probability analysis. And the point Straycat was making is this: #1 we need to be aware that there is such a thing as HUMAN REASONING and there is such a thing as BIBLICAL REASONING/WORLDVIEW. #2 They are not the same. #3 They are rarely if ever in accord. #4 For a believer in Christ, the person should be subscribing to the Biblical worldview first and foremost, really always. The Bible does not leave room for space aliens/life (meaning intelligent life as in other people out there) whatsoever. And you cannot legitimately apply HUMAN REASONING that is based on pure speculation to refute Scripture. Now, I grew up believing in UFOs, space aliens, etc. When I was a kid I collected UFO magazines, got into astronomy, and would be the first to say that with all the solar systems, planets and galaxies out there that there MUST be other life (people) out there. I even built models of space ships, flying saucers etc. Then as I grew up, learned more science and especially learned more Scripture, I realized that that was all fun and fanciful thinking - and was not real science and was certainly not something supported by Scripture. But as I said before, there will come a point when there is a great global deception, and it is very possible that there will be a space alien "highly super evolved man/people " will show up and be presented as our saviors and the AntiChrist could be claimed to be such a person. That could very well be an aspect of the demonic deception that is coming (we already have massive global demonic deception, not just the supernatural part yet). What is space? I am not sure, but the man/people global decepticons made it from demonic deceptive science. Or so it appears. Would you say that physics falls into the same demonic deception category? I'm not getting sideways with you or anything, I'm just trying to get a perspective as to where science stands as a whole from a Biblical perspective. [/quote] No, God invented mathematics and physics, so to ask if "physics falls into [a] demonic deception category" is silly nonsense. They have nothing to do with each other. I would highly recommend getting your hands of the books of Dr. Henry Morris who was the world's foremost expert at showing how science and Scripture are totally compatible and that God is the author of science.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: hollywud20]
#1465400
09/29/15 11:20 AM
09/29/15 11:20 AM
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Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
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14 point
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Montgomery
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We think our universe is the only universe. We don't even know where it begins or ends but there could very well be as many universes as there are galaxies. Actually it is known scientific fact that the Universe is **finite** and had a definite beginning and has a definitive boundary. It is shaped like a megaphone/bullhorn, which is quite interesting. What we don't know is what is *outside* the Universe. The Bible actually speaks to that.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: Zzzfog]
#1465406
09/29/15 11:26 AM
09/29/15 11:26 AM
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Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
WmHunter
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14 point
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Montgomery
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Well, God IS big enough to do whatever He wants. Always has been, always will be.
That is called HUMAN REASONING. And that is what is going on with the "all those solar systems, planets, galaxies, etc. etc.", speculative/probability analysis. And the point Straycat was making is this: #1 we need to be aware that there is such a thing as HUMAN REASONING and there is such a thing as BIBLICAL REASONING/WORLDVIEW. #2 They are not the same. #3 They are rarely if ever in accord. #4 For a believer in Christ, the person should be subscribing to the Biblical worldview first and foremost, really always. The Bible does not leave room for space aliens/life (meaning intelligent life as in other people out there) whatsoever. And you cannot legitimately apply HUMAN REASONING that is based on pure speculation to refute Scripture. Now, I grew up believing in UFOs, space aliens, etc. When I was a kid I collected UFO magazines, got into astronomy, and would be the first to say that with all the solar systems, planets and galaxies out there that there MUST be other life (people) out there. I even built models of space ships, flying saucers etc. Then as I grew up, learned more science and especially learned more Scripture, I realized that that was all fun and fanciful thinking - and was not real science and was certainly not something supported by Scripture. But as I said before, there will come a point when there is a great global deception, and it is very possible that there will be a space alien "highly super evolved man/people " will show up and be presented as our saviors and the AntiChrist could be claimed to be such a person. That could very well be an aspect of the demonic deception that is coming (we already have massive global demonic deception, not just the supernatural part yet). WM-- aren't you the member that predicted some major catastrophic event to occur yesterday due to the blood moons? No, I made no such prediction. I said the astronomical alignment is rare and very interesting, I commented that *others* have suggested that something might happen, but I stated that no one knows and no one could say that it would kick off any End Times scenario or calamity because the Bible does not say that. I did make some tongue in cheek remarks about it though. Having the Pope and Obama and Putin all speaking at the U.N. this and last week is certainly interesting though. And the stock market is certainly pulling back significantly. Both the Pope and Obama basically called for advancing the U.N. Agenda 2030 (previously 2020) which calls for global government.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: 300Ruger]
#1465500
09/29/15 12:41 PM
09/29/15 12:41 PM
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Posts: 11,650
Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
Booner
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Booner
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Central Alabama
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If they are loading up the bus to get a trip headed that way, I think I'll pass.
I ain't going...
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts
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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#1465666
09/29/15 03:09 PM
09/29/15 03:09 PM
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Posts: 1,658
North Baldwin County, Al
TensawRiver
8 point
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Posts: 1,658
North Baldwin County, Al
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I always wondered why god sabatoged them worker in Babel, but let us build a dang space ship. Because after the flood He had commanded the people to multiply and replenish the earth. But the People said they were going to build themselves a city with a tower so that they would not be scattered abroad.
Romans 8:1-2
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"
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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: WmHunter]
#1465669
09/29/15 03:10 PM
09/29/15 03:10 PM
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Posts: 900
Calera
WDE
6 point
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6 point
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Posts: 900
Calera
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A fair reading of the Bible makes clear that Earth and Man are God's one and ONLY special creation.
Next, there are no space aliens out there. No intelligent life. Nothing. Zero. Nada.
But I can assure everyone this: all this space alien, UFO, E.T. stuff is gonna get a lot of people in trouble. Fact is that Satan uses his demons to masquerade and fool (to destroy) people. And there are going to be millions, perhaps billions, that fall for the big LYING wonders that are about to come upon the Earth. And space aliens are going to be a part, perhaps and big part, of that deception.
If there were space aliens out there, they would have been discovered a long, long time ago. How do you know this as "fact"? I know it as a fact because, as a matter of FACT, despite there being a 50+ year effort to discover alien life outside our solar system ALL of the evidence, as in 100%, is that there is none. I quoted your usage of fact to begin with. You typed this. "Fact is that Satan uses his demons to masquerade and fool (to destroy) people". That's what I was referring to. How do you know this as "fact"?
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Re: Major NASA Mars announcement
[Re: 300Ruger]
#1465715
09/29/15 03:37 PM
09/29/15 03:37 PM
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North Baldwin County, Al
TensawRiver
8 point
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8 point
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North Baldwin County, Al
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straycat I didn't quote your post here but just wanted to say Amen!
That's all God really wanted and still wants today, for man to just believe Him. Just take Him at His word. He told Abraham( a pagan man at the time) to get up and go and He would do such and such. Abraham said ok and got up and went and it was accounted to him as righteousness.
God's word is absolute truth.
Sure there are many things the Bible never mentions and doesn't have to. It's just part of life here on this side. He did make us for His pleasure so we should just believe Him and accept the abundance of life that He gave us to enjoy. "Those who receive the abundance of grace and the gift of righteouness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ...(Romans 5:17nkj)
He did leave us all we need though..."as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue"...(1 Peter 2:3)
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Romans 8:1-2
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"
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