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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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08/24/15 10:27 AM
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Please dear Lord, will SOMEBODY get off the friggin' illegal immigrant crap and talk about the ONLY thing that matters!!!!...your income taxes!!!!!! They can run every Messican' back home to Tijuana and I'll still be bankrupt from Federal income taxes. Trump is running around the country talking like a bombastic smart-a$$ about getting all the Mexicans outta here, meanwhile I paid more in income taxes last year than lots of people make period. And when Cruz/Carson/Paul talk about a flat tax, the crowd doesn't even react. They want to hear WWE, er I mean Trump, talk about Messicans some more! The ONLY real reason we left the Motherland to start with is going to be the one thing that undoes us here. And like a bunch of cretins, we're cheering the guy about political correctness and illegal Latinos.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: ikillbux]
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08/24/15 10:40 AM
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Please dear Lord, will SOMEBODY get off the friggin' illegal immigrant crap and talk about the ONLY thing that matters!!!!...your income taxes!!!!!! They can run every Messican' back home to Tijuana and I'll still be bankrupt from Federal income taxes. Trump is running around the country talking like a bombastic smart-a$$ about getting all the Mexicans outta here, meanwhile I paid more in income taxes last year than lots of people make period. And when Cruz/Carson/Paul talk about a flat tax, the crowd doesn't even react. They want to hear WWE, er I mean Trump, talk about Messicans some more! The ONLY real reason we left the Motherland to start with is going to be the one thing that undoes us here. And like a bunch of cretins, we're cheering the guy about political correctness and illegal Latinos. I don't see Trump being able to send the Mexican backs either but I don't see a flat tax ever being reality either.
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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08/24/15 10:50 AM
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Aaron_H
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Raise penalties for ANY employer who hires illegal immigrants. Make the fine un-affordable or make the employer go to prison. That would solve a big part of the problem. But it would hurt Trump and a lot of the candidates' supporters bottom line.
Last edited by Aaron_H; 08/24/15 12:02 PM.
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: JAT50]
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08/24/15 01:33 PM
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Please dear Lord, will SOMEBODY get off the friggin' illegal immigrant crap and talk about the ONLY thing that matters!!!!...your income taxes!!!!!! They can run every Messican' back home to Tijuana and I'll still be bankrupt from Federal income taxes. Trump is running around the country talking like a bombastic smart-a$$ about getting all the Mexicans outta here, meanwhile I paid more in income taxes last year than lots of people make period. And when Cruz/Carson/Paul talk about a flat tax, the crowd doesn't even react. They want to hear WWE, er I mean Trump, talk about Messicans some more! The ONLY real reason we left the Motherland to start with is going to be the one thing that undoes us here. And like a bunch of cretins, we're cheering the guy about political correctness and illegal Latinos. I don't see Trump being able to send the Mexican backs either but I don't see a flat tax ever being reality either. It should be the easiest thing to get done if you had a leader who could get the message across to the public who would in turn put the pressure on their representatives to pass it. You think liberals ever look at policies they want and say " no way we get that passed"? There is the reason they get more done in 4 years than conservatives could do in 40.
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate" Bama_Earl
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Aaron_H]
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08/24/15 03:44 PM
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Raise penalties for ANY employer who hires illegal immigrants. Make the fine un-affordable or make the employer go to prison. That would solve a big part of the problem. But it would hurt Trump and a lot of the candidates' supporters bottom line. Yes this. But Trump has 1000's worknig in his buildings... SO...
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: top cat]
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08/24/15 05:22 PM
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Raise penalties for ANY employer who hires illegal immigrants. Make the fine un-affordable or make the employer go to prison. That would solve a big part of the problem. But it would hurt Trump and a lot of the candidates' supporters bottom line. Yes this. But Trump has 1000's worknig in his buildings... SO... . Really?
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: ikillbux]
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08/24/15 05:28 PM
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I agree with the anger that Trump has stirred up and I agree with a little of his policy because, really, he hasn't released very much in the way of specific policies. He's done a lot of foot stomping and name calling that most of us have wanted to do to the career politicians but to say we agree with everything he has said policy wise, isn't saying much because he has been a single issue candidate. This^^^ It's appealling to low-information, emotion-driven people. He's not different from Jessie Jackson except that his content is conservative slanted. He's like the dog chasing a car...BARK!!!....BARK!!!....BARK!!!!....but what's he gonna do when he catches it? He's like the schoolyard bully that excels at the insult game, but once childhood was over he's a loser now. It's all unpresidential talk. I don't want my boss, my pastor, my president, or anybody in authority over me to be famous for running their cake-eater with a bombastic personality. I want them to be power under control. So join all the other high-brow well informed progressive highly educated homosexual vegans and support Bernie........ All these condescending know-it-all rants are getting old. You don't like Trump, I get it. But do you actually believe that you can sway someone else to agree with you by insulting them and constantly insinuating that you're somehow superior because of your idealogy? Seriously, you guys are making me believe in reincarnation, there's no way you got that stoopid in one lifetime.....
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Aaron_H]
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08/24/15 05:51 PM
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Raise penalties for ANY employer who hires illegal immigrants. Make the fine un-affordable or make the employer go to prison. That would solve a big part of the problem. But it would hurt Trump and a lot of the candidates' supporters bottom line. It's one thing to say. Now actually pay for the enforcement.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Vulkanman]
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08/24/15 06:16 PM
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I agree with the anger that Trump has stirred up and I agree with a little of his policy because, really, he hasn't released very much in the way of specific policies. He's done a lot of foot stomping and name calling that most of us have wanted to do to the career politicians but to say we agree with everything he has said policy wise, isn't saying much because he has been a single issue candidate. This^^^ It's appealling to low-information, emotion-driven people. He's not different from Jessie Jackson except that his content is conservative slanted. He's like the dog chasing a car...BARK!!!....BARK!!!....BARK!!!!....but what's he gonna do when he catches it? He's like the schoolyard bully that excels at the insult game, but once childhood was over he's a loser now. It's all unpresidential talk. I don't want my boss, my pastor, my president, or anybody in authority over me to be famous for running their cake-eater with a bombastic personality. I want them to be power under control. So join all the other high-brow well informed progressive highly educated homosexual vegans and support Bernie........ All these condescending know-it-all rants are getting old. You don't like Trump, I get it. But do you actually believe that you can sway someone else to agree with you by insulting them and constantly insinuating that you're somehow superior because of your idealogy? Seriously, you guys are making me believe in reincarnation, there's no way you got that stoopid in one lifetime..... Honestly, I understand exactly what you are saying, now. I've tried for the last week to only disagree on principle and not make it personal. It doesn't help to personally attack those I don't agree with and it hurts my testimony. Not to mention, I completely understand the anger that people have toward the establishment and why Trump is able to resonate with that anger. I just disagree that he is the one who will do anything about it.
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate" Bama_Earl
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Vulkanman]
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08/25/15 08:07 AM
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So join all the other high-brow well informed progressive highly educated homosexual vegans and support Bernie........
All these condescending know-it-all rants are getting old. You don't like Trump, I get it. But do you actually believe that you can sway someone else to agree with you by insulting them and constantly insinuating that you're somehow superior because of your idealogy?
Seriously, you guys are making me believe in reincarnation, there's no way you got that stoopid (stupid?) in one lifetime..... Well it wasn't / isn't my intention to be condescending, and I don't believe I have been. Neither am I "high brow"...I'm as country as a clothesline. Yet what I sense you are doing is (subconsciously) equating presidential etiquette and articulate speech with "Progressivism" or liberalism. I remember when I used to cuss and fight because I didn't have the mental and verbal weapons to win an argument otherwise. It's the same thing with Trump, he cannot articulately and calmly debate the issues with men like Cruz/Paul because they know every detail and he has little/no clue. Thus he answers everything with a brash and confrontational demeanor and always ends with "I'm against political correctness." Well no crap Sherlock, we are too, but the question was about something else that you apparently know nothing about. America has developed this personality that is against intellectualism, it shows in every arena. If 'Murica would vote for Donald Trump, they'd vote for Bobby "The Brain" Heenan. And don't tell me Donald Trump doesn't act like a wrestling manager. I don't disagree with Trump, I simply think he doesn't know very much, and he doesn't act professional.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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08/25/15 09:49 AM
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As others in the race after a primary or three start dropping out, their supporters will attach to another candidate(s). By the time of the SEC primary, there will likely only be 6-8 candidates left...hopefully less.
If you are a Trump fan, then you already support him. I don't see those who favor Perry, Santorum, Huckabee, Jindal, Fiorina, Graham, and many of the other no-shot runners switching to Trump. I expect to see a huge shift to Cruz, Rubio, Walker, Carson, Paul and perhaps Christy. The mid-list.
Then it will become 100% about campaign $ resources. We'll get our short list them when 2 of the above drop out of the race because they cannot raise enough money to compete. I don't see many supporters of Cruz, Rubio ,Walker, Carson jumping to Trump. Christy people, maybe.
Look at New Hampshire. Trump +24. But that is with all the players still in the race. Once Iowa, NH and the other few early primaries are held, the field will narrow a lot. I expect Trump's large lead to also narrow greatly.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: ikillbux]
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08/25/15 10:14 AM
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So join all the other high-brow well informed progressive highly educated homosexual vegans and support Bernie........
All these condescending know-it-all rants are getting old. You don't like Trump, I get it. But do you actually believe that you can sway someone else to agree with you by insulting them and constantly insinuating that you're somehow superior because of your idealogy?
Seriously, you guys are making me believe in reincarnation, there's no way you got that stoopid (stupid?) in one lifetime..... Well it wasn't / isn't my intention to be condescending, and I don't believe I have been. Neither am I "high brow"...I'm as country as a clothesline. Yet what I sense you are doing is (subconsciously) equating presidential etiquette and articulate speech with "Progressivism" or liberalism. I remember when I used to cuss and fight because I didn't have the mental and verbal weapons to win an argument otherwise. It's the same thing with Trump, he cannot articulately and calmly debate the issues with men like Cruz/Paul because they know every detail and he has little/no clue. Thus he answers everything with a brash and confrontational demeanor and always ends with "I'm against political correctness." Well no crap Sherlock, we are too, but the question was about something else that you apparently know nothing about. America has developed this personality that is against intellectualism, it shows in every arena. If 'Murica would vote for Donald Trump, they'd vote for Bobby "The Brain" Heenan. And don't tell me Donald Trump doesn't act like a wrestling manager. I don't disagree with Trump, I simply think he doesn't know very much, and he doesn't act professional. While I like Carson and Cruz a lot better...I agree with a lot Trump says. And he KNOWS alot. You dont do what he has done if you dont. He got his degree at an Ivy League school,( there are only 8 ivy league schools) the Univ. of Penn.. He also went to Wharton School of Business. One thing for sure. He is no dummy.
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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08/25/15 10:17 AM
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outdoorobsession
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And hes in the building trade. You deal with rough folks in building. You cant go around acting wimpy.
You have to be tough dealing with all those contractors and sub contractors.
I think his way of speaking comes from that.
I build, fix, renovate and flip buildings. I deal with tough groups of sub contractors. I definitely dont talk to them like a politician thats for sure.
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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08/25/15 10:22 AM
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yea...Megan deserves the shots. If she cant take the heat she should stay the h#$l out of the kitchen.
She was critcizing him again last night on her show. He responded.
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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08/25/15 10:28 AM
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Let me see if I can explain from a different angle...
Governing is more predicated on philosophy than practice. What I mean is that my bedrock philosophy will determine my practices. I can't tell if Trump is even conservative, and he's dang sure a million miles away from Libertarianism (which is what I prefer). I bet Trump couldn't even quote the preamble, much less make every decision based off his constitutional philosophy. The dumbing down of America has resulted in us being far more interested in debating low priority stuff like social issues and immigration. We don't need some radical immigration overhaul, just enforce the damn laws we already have. THAT's a quick debate, it's over, move on! Now, if Trump will promise me a RADICAL, complete overhaul of the taxation system, then he's my man. I want a low flat tax, IRS abolished, a couple of universal credits, and....well, that's about it. THAT is what Cruz and Paul are trying to talk about, but nobody's interested. Instead the masses wanna know where the candidates stand on $h!t the government ought not even be involved in!!!!!! If Trump wants to be a bad@zz and run that bombastic mouth, let's hear him say this: "You promise to pay your 10% flat tax, and I promise you'll never hear anything ever from the government, period!"
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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08/25/15 10:37 AM
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well I agree on the flat tax..on consumption not income.
Income tax only punishes the workers!
I think drug dealers, theives, 'tutes and everyone else...including the entitlement crowd need to ALL feel the burden of taxes...so tax what people buy...not what they EARN.
Id like to see that go through with whatever candidate wins.
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Re: So....... How are y'all gonna stop Trump?
[Re: BowtechDan]
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08/25/15 11:28 AM
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Raise penalties for ANY employer who hires illegal immigrants. Make the fine un-affordable or make the employer go to prison. That would solve a big part of the problem. But it would hurt Trump and a lot of the candidates' supporters bottom line. It's one thing to say. Now actually pay for the enforcement. enforcement, IMO, is not that hard and just simply addressing the illegal immigration would probably create even bigger issues since we have become so reliant on this segment of the workforce. I believe that we have to address 4 issues simultaneously, 1)a consumer tax that everyone pays into when they purchase items which forces illegals and all other non tax paying people to pay taxes 2)address a welfare system that encourages some to draw a check instead of work, this is important because when the next step is put into place you are gonna need someone to pick the tomatoes. 3)force employers to verify the US citizenship of all employees and employee candidates and have a stiff penalty for employers who violate the law. 4)establish and enforce a guest worker program for immigrants who are a valueable part of our economy. I believe restructuring the welfare system would force many to starve or go to work, which would begin to dry up many of the jobs that the illegals are doing. Also when they are paying taxes when they buy groceries, their bottom line is not as good which would encourage some to leave or force their employer to make changes, that for the employer becomes a hindrance and may make better sense for him to hire legal workers instead of illegal. Finally, all the IRS workers, now out of a job,is just restatused to immigrtion enforcement. Dry up the jobs, get rid of the handouts and it becomes better for them to stay in mexico and scratch out a living....and no need to spend billions in fences.
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