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Re: old does
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08/21/15 03:08 AM
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Bustinbeards
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20.5 years old, damn. Bet that was a smart old Momma doe!
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: old does
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08/21/15 03:11 AM
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slayinbucks24/7
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20.5 years old, damn. Bet that was a smart old Momma doe! Don't you know it!!! Thanks to the OP for posting this. Good article
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Re: old does
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08/21/15 05:27 AM
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ikillbux
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Not necessarily about the article, but talking about old does reminds me of an issue I used to have with a club I was in. Everybody always talked about hoping a big mature doe would come out this evening so they could kill one for meat. I would contest that they should be shooting a yearling (or otherwise young doe) instead. I have no scientific learning on this, just observation, but ALL the old does I would see had babies, and very often twins, and even a few would have triplets. They were better, more protective mothers, thus overall more beneficial to the herd. We had one doe that had triplets two years in a row, we called her "old flop ear", and made her off limits. She was a COW, huge doe, and for whatever reason one ear flopped. First year we saw her she had three knothead babies!!! Opening morning of bow season she walked right under me with those babies, she looked cross-eyed, crazy, and half bald! LOL Bless her heart!! Next year she would bring three babies out on a greenfield every evening (never noticed what they were). I got out of that club the next year, so who knows what happened.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: old does
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08/21/15 06:13 AM
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In general old does make better mamas. They have the best fawning areas for the survival of their babies.
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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Re: old does
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08/21/15 07:43 AM
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Dang I've killed a couple 10 YO's but twenty. Dang she was one smart cookie.
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Re: old does
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08/21/15 08:19 AM
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I knew a fellow that killed a doe whose teeth looked like that. Makes me wish now he had gotten her aged.
If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain
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Re: old does
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08/21/15 10:11 AM
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bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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Wow. I figured the natural lifespan was 10 years at the most under ideal circumstances (captivity). Learn something everyday.
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Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris 1938-2017 UGA Class of 1960 BS/MS Forestry LTJG, USNR
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Re: old does
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08/21/15 11:28 AM
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I killed an old doe at Oakmulgee WMA on a muzzleloader hunt in the 80's the biologist said was at least 13 years old. They were amazed, she was an old survivor...,until she met my Renegade .50 cal. Oh those were some fun hunts!
Trust in God, boys, but keep your powder dry. Oliver Cromwell-1834
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Re: old does
[Re: ikillbux]
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08/22/15 05:51 AM
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I agree with you, I talked to a biologist and he said you should always try and shoot yearling does, they eat twice as much as an old doe and are more likely to only drop single fawns, I then asked him about the chance of shooting button bucks by mistake and he said the benefit definitely out weighs the cons
If my life was any better i'd have to hire someone to help me enjoy it!
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Re: old does
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08/22/15 06:46 PM
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If you shoot a single young deer in a field its most likely a button buck the doe has run off. By waiting till you see several deer you can cut down on shooting buttons. Then you simply avoid shooting the biggest one .
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: old does
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08/23/15 02:37 AM
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how do they test age other than teeth? (cementum annuli analysis ) Deer teeth have growth rings in them similar to trees. The lab cuts the tooth and " reads" the rings under a microscope. It's not 100%. Other than teeth, I know of no accurate method other than putting a tag in their ear when born.
"Why do you ask"?
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Re: old does
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08/23/15 04:07 AM
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Posts: 4,170 Florence, Al
AlabamaSwamper
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We shoot big does without fawns. Average doe weight last year was 112lb and without looking at my paperwork I believe 4.5 years old. Out of only 5 does off 1000 acres.
I need to shoot these salt lick hoarding does but those usually have twins.
BTR Scorer in NW Alabama
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