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HHA Optimizer King Pin #1405151
07/31/15 10:08 PM
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I lucked up and got one from Bowhunters Superstore on eBay for $261.99. Joker runs for $349.99 from Lancaster Archery. I got it mounted on my bow when I got in from work a little while ago. That is one well built and thought out sight. It has the easiest 2nd and 3rd axis adjustments I've ever seen on a sight, better than all of the expensive Sure Loc and CBE sights I've used on my tournament rigs in the past. What I really like about it is the location of the yardage wheel. I hunt with my with my quiver on now and with the location of the yardage wheel, it will not interfere with my quiver anymore. I can mount my quiver as close to the riser as I want now. It also has a magnifier on the yardage wheel. This is real nice if you've got older eyes and have to use reading glasses.

I'll start the process of sighting it in and verifying my 2nd and 3rd axis later today. HHA hit a home run with this one. The only negative is the price. High end sights are getting ridiculous nowadays.


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Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405211
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Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405338
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Let's see a pic so I don't have to google it!


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Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405340
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I think I got her dialed in. 60 yard group:









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Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405350
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Very nice. Can't wait to see it up close. I don't shoot with my quiver on, so the Ultra may serve me well. Did you get the regular size or the 2" XL?


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Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405400
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Sweet. What does the second and third axis do?

Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405434
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I use the 1 5/8" housing, Brad.

G/H, the 2nd axis controls the cant (levels it left to right). The 3rd axis levels the sight housing to the bow (in and out). The 2nd axis doesn't have to be set square with the bow. If you shoot with a cant, it can be set so the bubble is level while at full draw. I always use a long level across both limb pockets to level mine. I don't shoot with a cant. If the sight isn't square with the bow in the 3rd axis, it will cause left or right impacts when taking up or down elevation shots. There's several different methods of setting the 3rd axis. I level the bow up in my press and put a level across the back of my riser and level the sight to it. It's always work for me like this.


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Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405474
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I shoot the black gold pure driven75 and absolutely love it. Can't imagine going back to a multiple pin sight

Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405549
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I've been looking at this sight, but man they are proud of them. I have the HHA 5519 XL with the dial. I can't use my Hoyt quiver with the sight I have due to the arrows against the dial. I can see the King Pin will not have these issues. 399.00 for XL and .10 pin hurts a mans wallet. Lol

Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405614
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Shaw, can u PM me the link where u bought your sight? I want the .01 pin dovetail tournament model though. I just sold my Axcel Accu touch Carbon Pro on Archerytalk I think. Thx, Robinhedd


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Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405741
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That 60yd group is sick. I obviously need more practice.

Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: robinhedd] #1405743
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Originally Posted By: robinhedd
Shaw, can u PM me the link where u bought your sight? I want the .01 pin dovetail tournament model though. I just sold my Axcel Accu touch Carbon Pro on Archerytalk I think. Thx, Robinhedd


I bought it from Bowhunters Superstore on eBay. Used the Buy It Now and didn't have to bid. There's not any that cheap on there now.


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Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405871
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Shaw does yours have the .019 or .010 pin? I think you may have struck gold on that one. I didnt see any near the $262 you got it for.

Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1405896
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I got the .019".


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any way of seeing a picture of the magnified yrd scale, thats why i had to quit useing my pendulum, i could no longer read the small numbers. wear about a 2.5 reading glass.

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i think i might actually be able to see that, it has lighting for ground blinds, correct? maybe i can go back to a single pin again after all, i hate looking through a picket fence of pins.
thanks for the photos, very helpful.

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They offer a light for it, but it does not come with the sight. It's the same optional light that mounts on top of the sight housing to illuminate the pin. For the yardage dial it mounts right beside the yardage tape magnifier.


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Re: HHA Optimizer King Pin [Re: Shaw] #1407185
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Originally Posted By: Shaw
I use the 1 5/8" housing, Brad.

G/H, the 2nd axis controls the cant (levels it left to right). The 3rd axis levels the sight housing to the bow (in and out). The 2nd axis doesn't have to be set square with the bow. If you shoot with a cant, it can be set so the bubble is level while at full draw. I always use a long level across both limb pockets to level mine. I don't shoot with a cant. If the sight isn't square with the bow in the 3rd axis, it will cause left or right impacts when taking up or down elevation shots. There's several different methods of setting the 3rd axis. I level the bow up in my press and put a level across the back of my riser and level the sight to it. It's always work for me like this.

Thanks.

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