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Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: PineStalker89] #1391753
07/16/15 05:08 AM
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I agree with Todd & Timbercruiser.

And at the end of the day - who cares? Its just a deer.

Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: timbercruiser] #1391861
07/16/15 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
Everybody that hunts uses every edge to shoot something that they can, plots, corn, powdered attractants, calls, sex lures, scopes, tree stands, camo ground blinds, leasing the best land they can afford or have access to to for hunting and the list goes on. I guess they can either be a hypocrite about it, but facts are facts. Todd has about the same viewpoint that I do.


Exactly, everybody uses things that give them an unfair advantage over the deer. It's simply a matter of degree. I just laugh at people who drive a four wheel drive to where they hunt; back a 4 wheeler off of it to get them further into the woods; put on camo overalls; spray down with scent killer spray; go climb a tree with a climbing stand after setting out 4 doe in heat bombs; sit there 30 feet off the ground scanning for deer with a 500 dollar pair of binoculars; shoot a deer 300 yards away with a 300 win mag topped with a 800 dollar scope; then come home and mock people that would legalize hunting near a corn feeder as a "cheater". LOL! Have mercy.

Being able to use a gun or a compound bow is a far bigger cheat than using a corn feeder. How many deer could you kill at a corn feeder with just a hand thrown sharp stick? And how many deer would you kill each year if you had to walk from where you live to your hunting club?

Hunt how you want. But if I were using some or all of the things mentioned above I'd back off belittling someone who would sit over a green patch or corn (if legalized) as cheating or not really hunting. You might just come off looking like a major hypocrite.


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Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: PineStalker89] #1391864
07/16/15 07:33 AM
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I dont care how other people gret it done. I like seein view points aside from my own. You can't grow your mind if you dont take other points of view into consideration. Its obviously a sensitive subject for some and thats ok.

Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: PineStalker89] #1391874
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I don't care either way. Just make it legal or illegal so there's an easily defined line in the sand. smile


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Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: PineStalker89] #1392153
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If it didn't screw up the natural deer movement, I wouldn't give a rat's @ss if everybody in the country hunted over corn. I'm certainly not going to hunt over corn. I don't consider it "hunting"

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Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: PineStalker89] #1392726
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Corn fed deer taste better IMO

Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: Baybuzzard] #1392823
07/17/15 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Baybuzzard
If it didn't screw up the natural deer movement, I wouldn't give a rat's @ss if everybody in the country hunted over corn. I'm certainly not going to hunt over corn. I don't consider it "hunting"


not sure what you would consider it. Or what you consider the natural movement of deer. Because there movement changes constantly, more or less. Deer basically eat, sleep and breed. Hunters basically try to catch them going to or from one of these activities. isnt there natural flow also effected as soon as hunters steps foot in the woods. Regardless what folks call it, its all the same. Meat in the freezer and if were lucky, bones on the wall.


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Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: PineStalker89] #1392923
07/17/15 11:18 AM
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More activity happens around corn than just seeing deer. Great way to keep kids interested in outdoors with all the other animals and predators to keep them occupied just in case they don't see a deer. Can be used as another way of herd management and monitoring. Never shot a doe over corn in all years I hunted over it. Other people kept does thinned down. Got to let the young ones walk if you want a trophy! Different people have different opinion got to respect that, but got to say Florida and other states still have strong deer herd with hunting over corn.

Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: Savage7mm] #1392927
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Originally Posted by Savage7mm
Corn fed deer taste better IMO

Fed two young bucks for four months fattening those things up before taking both in January. Some of the best venison I ever had too!

Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: Todd1700] #1393083
07/17/15 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd1700
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The ADCNR sees it differently as they put out literature on how to improve (man-made) plots and write up a lot of people for baiting with corn.


Lots of things have wrongfully been illegal or legal in this country. It was once legal to own other humans here. It was once illegal for women to vote. I could go on for an hour listing examples. Thank goodness we live in a country where we have the freedom to ask "WHY" something is illegal. And when a good answer to that question cannot be found then we can pressure the people in office or elect new people that will change such laws.

I hear a lot of people rail against hunting over bait in these threads but hold their feet to the fire and they cannot give you one reason that makes hunting over corn any morally or ethically different than hunting over a green patch. Yet one is illegal and the other isn't. But I have a feeling that eventually this glaring inconsistency is going to be fixed.


I personally don't see the inconsistency. If you plant corn or grass, it's legal to hunt over. If you pour grass or corn out of a bag, it's illegal. I hunt over corn ALOT...still on the stalk.

Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: centralala] #1393106
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Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by Todd1700
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The ADCNR sees it differently as they put out literature on how to improve (man-made) plots and write up a lot of people for baiting with corn.


Lots of things have wrongfully been illegal or legal in this country. It was once legal to own other humans here. It was once illegal for women to vote. I could go on for an hour listing examples. Thank goodness we live in a country where we have the freedom to ask "WHY" something is illegal. And when a good answer to that question cannot be found then we can pressure the people in office or elect new people that will change such laws.

I hear a lot of people rail against hunting over bait in these threads but hold their feet to the fire and they cannot give you one reason that makes hunting over corn any morally or ethically different than hunting over a green patch. Yet one is illegal and the other isn't. But I have a feeling that eventually this glaring inconsistency is going to be fixed.


I personally don't see the inconsistency. If you plant corn or grass, it's legal to hunt over. If you pour grass or corn out of a bag, it's illegal. I hunt over corn ALOT...still on the stalk.


There's a lot of people that thumb their nose at the thought of "corn pile" hunters. As witnessed in this thread. Not debating the legalities of it at this time. Simply that people have a double standard here..... Some misconception that a food plot is "real" hunting and a corn feeder is not. Where legal of course.

Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: Atoler] #1393125
07/17/15 03:50 PM
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Yea, I really don't care one way or the other. For each his own.

Re: Spin off baiting thread [Re: PineStalker89] #1393357
07/18/15 03:06 AM
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The main people who DO NOT want baiting legalized?

The one's doing it that way NOW.

When everybody can do it, they lose their advantage.

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