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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: N2TRKYS] #1359373
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Why is your ph still so low?


My guess is it’s likely that my base saturation levels of Ca and maybe K aren’t high enough. I wish they provided a little more detailed report on the soil test but heck it is just $7. I figure I probably need to be running around 1200-1400 lbs of Ca in my soil before the pH will balance out in the 6’s. So I’ll be adding more lime….but its in order to keep filling up the bucket and not replace Ca that I’m losing. That's an important thing to recognize on your own soils.

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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1359378
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Originally Posted By: CNC
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Why is your ph still so low?


My guess is it’s likely that my base saturation levels of Ca and maybe K aren’t high enough. I wish they provided a little more detailed report on the soil test but heck it is just $7. I figure I probably need to be running around 1200-1400 lbs of Ca in my soil before the pH will balance out in the 6’s. So I’ll be adding more lime….but its in order to keep filling up the bucket and not replace Ca that I’m losing. That's an important thing to recognize on your own soils.



Are you trying to keep your ph in the mid 5's?


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1359380
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CNC what a douchebag way to address what I do for a living you idot. I'll tell you this I treat every one of my customers fields as if it were mine. A lot of the time I have to tell them not to spray this or plant that when they give me the opportunity where I could have said do this or that and it would have been more expensive. I stay on acres that way. You need to get a grip on reality cause you're head is way up your ass.

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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: N2TRKYS] #1359386
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Are you trying to keep your ph in the mid 5's?


Heck no….What gave you that idea?


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: 257wbymag] #1359388
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
CNC what a douchebag way to address what I do for a living you idot. I'll tell you this I treat every one of my customers fields as if it were mine. A lot of the time I have to tell them not to spray this or plant that when they give me the opportunity where I could have said do this or that and it would have been more expensive. I stay on acres that way. You need to get a grip on reality cause you're head is way up your ass.


I really didn’t mean for it to be either sugar coated nor douche baggy…..I was just trying to put it in simpler terms that Ol’ DW would understand better. smile


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1359406
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Originally Posted By: CNC
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Are you trying to keep your ph in the mid 5's?


Heck no….What gave you that idea?



Seems like you're adding just enough lime to sustain the current levels, but not enough to raise it.


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1359410
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Originally Posted By: CNC
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CNC what a douchebag way to address what I do for a living you idot. I'll tell you this I treat every one of my customers fields as if it were mine. A lot of the time I have to tell them not to spray this or plant that when they give me the opportunity where I could have said do this or that and it would have been more expensive. I stay on acres that way. You need to get a grip on reality cause you're head is way up your ass.


I really didn’t mean for it to be either sugar coated nor douche baggy…..I was just trying to put it in simpler terms that Ol’ DW would understand better. smile


Why don't you come up to my dove shoot. And explain it to me the same way. Then maybe I can understand it!!!! See how that works.

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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: 257wbymag] #1359413
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I think this sunn hemp is gonna be the real deal. I like what I see so far. I put down 250 lbs of 17-17-17 per acre and 15lbs of seed.


Just got mine most of mine planted this past week as well. Hopefully I will get a good stand. Looking forward to see how this affects my soils tests next year. Like I was saying in another thread I have't used any traditional fertilizer in the last few years (other than lime). I've been using sea minerals along with a couple other things (that you would laugh at) that are low cost but have shown really good results so far. Here are a couple of my plots that I just planted. I will post some more pics once they get up good. I too planted 15 lbs to the acre. I will probably move to a Throw & Mow/No Till type of planting this fall. I've been looking at it for a few years but haven't made the transition yet.



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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: N2TRKYS] #1359422
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Seems like you're adding just enough lime to sustain the current levels, but not enough to raise it.


I added what the soil test called for a year ago….actually more because the truck showed up with closer to 5 tons. I waited 6-7 months and tested and my pH and Ca were both on a sharp climb upward. Now I’ve tested 6-7 months after that and I’m planning to make adjustments as needed. I don’t see how I could have done it whole lot differently other than just brought in more lime blindly this spring. One thing to consider too is that my OM% is on a steep climb in these first few years and that means my nutrient holding capacity is also on the rise. So as my ability to hold more Ca goes up then it requires filling the bucket on up to balance things out between the positives and the negatives. Even when I get my Ca up to 1200 lbs per acre….if my OM% is still going up and my holding capacity is still climbing….then I will still add more lime at that time as well because then the balancing point may be 1600 lbs/ac or 1700 lbs acre. The idea though is that we are getting more fertile and more fertile along the way. Having 2000 lbs of Ca per acre available to your plants is a whole lot different than having 300-400 lbs. This is all dependant though on which direction you are going with your organic matter…..increasing or decreasing.


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How many acres are you doing all this on?


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: CNC] #1359429
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Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Seems like you're adding just enough lime to sustain the current levels, but not enough to raise it.


I added what the soil test called for a year ago….actually more because the truck showed up with closer to 5 tons. I waited 6-7 months and tested and my pH and Ca were both on a sharp climb upward. Now I’ve tested 6-7 months after that and I’m planning to make adjustments as needed. I don’t see how I could have done it whole lot differently other than just brought in more lime blindly this spring. One thing to consider too is that my OM% is on a steep climb in these first few years and that means my nutrient holding capacity is also on the rise. So as my ability to hold more Ca goes up then it requires filling the bucket on up to balance things out between the positives and the negatives. Even when I get my Ca up to 1200 lbs per acre….if my OM% is still going up and my holding capacity is still climbing….then I will still add more lime at that time as well because then the balancing point may be 1600 lbs/ac or 1700 lbs acre. The idea though is that we are getting more fertile and more fertile along the way. Having 2000 lbs of Ca per acre available to your plants is a whole lot different than having 300-400 lbs. This is all dependant though on which direction you are going with your organic matter…..increasing or decreasing.



Would it not stand to reason that your nutrient level could be increasing because they aren't as available to the plants due to low ph?


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: daniel white] #1359430
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Originally Posted By: daniel white
Why don't you come up to my dove shoot. And explain it to me the same way. Then maybe I can understand it!!!! See how that works.


Your posts on here have a me a little uneasy about attending with all of your homosexual references to shoving stuff down each other’s throats. What kind of dove hunt is this exactly anyways? Do y’all have a name for it? smile

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Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: daniel white
Why don't you come up to my dove shoot. And explain it to me the same way. Then maybe I can understand it!!!! See how that works.


Your posts on here have a me a little uneasy about attending with all of your homosexual references to shoving stuff down each other’s throats. What kind of dove hunt is this exactly anyways? Do y’all have a name for it? smile



All joking aside, he's offered his land up to young hunters and adults whom otherwise may not have a place to hunt.


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: N2TRKYS] #1359476
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: daniel white
Why don't you come up to my dove shoot. And explain it to me the same way. Then maybe I can understand it!!!! See how that works.


Your posts on here have a me a little uneasy about attending with all of your homosexual references to shoving stuff down each other’s throats. What kind of dove hunt is this exactly anyways? Do y’all have a name for it? smile



All joking aside, he's offered his land up to young hunters and adults whom otherwise may not have a place to hunt.


Fact. Ol milk man is good people. I seriously doubt he gets sexually excited over dirt.



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Why don't you come up to my dove shoot. And explain it to me the same way. Then maybe I can understand it!!!! See how that works.


Your posts on here have a me a little uneasy about attending with all of your homosexual references to shoving stuff down each other’s throats. What kind of dove hunt is this exactly anyways? Do y’all have a name for it? smile



All joking aside, he's offered his land up to young hunters and adults whom otherwise may not have a place to hunt.


Fact. Ol milk man is good people. I seriously doubt he gets sexually excited over dirt.

Now milk cows is a whole different ball game. Oh and he has been known to hit a ass a time or two.

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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: daniel white
Why don't you come up to my dove shoot. And explain it to me the same way. Then maybe I can understand it!!!! See how that works.


Your posts on here have a me a little uneasy abou7t attending with all of your homosexual references to shoving stuff down each other’s throats. What kind of dove hunt is this exactly anyways? Do y’all have a name for it? smile



All joking aside, he's offered his land up to young hunters and adults whom otherwise may not have a place to hunt.


Fact. Ol milk man is good people. I seriously doubt he gets sexually excited over dirt.

Now milk cows is a whole different ball game. Oh and he has been known to hit a ass a time or two.


Yep, there's video proof of hitting an ass, I've seen it. laugh



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Yea Cmon.. laugh


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Re: Throw n' Mow Tutorial [Re: daniel white] #1359763
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My test plot is progressing nicely. The milo is starting to fill in.


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Looking good bambam....Thanks for the update. Something to start training your eye to is plant color. When conditions are right then your plants will be a DEEEP green. Plants that have a very light green color or geenish yellow....or if you're seeing any reds and purples....then these are signs of nutrient deficiencies or stress.

Lighting can make a big difference in a picture but from what I;m seeing your field still has a greenish-yellow look to it. My guess is its needing some nitrogen but it would be good to send in a soil sample just to see how everything else looks like.... P,K, pH......Go ahead and add your other bag of 13-13-13 next trip. It would be good if you had a little 33-0-0 as well to put out but its no big deal if you don't.

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I think I'll drink the kool-aid and do the throw-n-mow thing.

Yoda will then give me a pass on proper Ph and throwing down good ol' trip 13. No pass if ya plow. smirk



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