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Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal #1352364
05/18/15 05:17 AM
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Anyone know the ins/outs of this deal. It seems like every one of these big deals results in American on the losing side of the deal.

Why is the GOP pushing for it?

Am I missing something?


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: Beer Belly] #1352406
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The politicians are heavily invested in the other countries.

Always follow the $.


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: Beer Belly] #1352409
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Obama REALLY wants it but several Dems have come out against it. Not sure how to digest that.


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: Wiley Coyote] #1352414
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Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Obama REALLY wants it but several Dems have come out against it. Not sure how to digest that.


Exactly.... Warren is fighting it tooth and nail.

Something is going on.


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: Beer Belly] #1352450
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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Obama REALLY wants it but several Dems have come out against it. Not sure how to digest that.


Exactly.... Warren is fighting it tooth and nail.

Something is going on.


Like something that will crush middle class wages and jobs?


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: Beer Belly] #1352451
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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

Anyone know the ins/outs of this deal. It seems like every one of these big deals results in American on the losing side of the deal.

Why is the GOP pushing for it?

Am I missing something?




Because both sides are a full of corporate globalist and could care less about the average American.


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: bill] #1352548
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The Atlantic and Pacific "free trade" deals are like NAFTA: globalist treaties that are promoted to the masses as a good "free trade" treaty but are in reality all about the creation of global government and hence the erosion and destruction of our national sovereignty, further erosion of our manufacturing base, allowing (no longer patriotic) American corporations (to even further) offshore production and import those cheaper made products back into the country tariff/duty(tax) free, and will also allow the importation of mid and high tech foreign workers to take more jobs from Americans.

All of these "free trade" deals are about reducing America economically, socially and culturally and building up global governmental apparatuses/entities. That is why these agreements are typically thousands of pages long. The NAFTA treaty was literally a stack of paper (rules, laws, regulations) TWO FEET HIGH! I suspect the Atlantic and Pacific "deals" will be even more as over 90% of those "deals" have noting to do with "free trade" but are a form of supra national law dealing with immigration (yeah, immigration of folks from those other countries into America - see above); global warming - yeah, massive environmental laws that Congress won't pass independently - think an all ready out of control EPA on super steroids - at the behest of all the other countries and our liberal Nazis. The above is just the tip of the iceberg.

Bottom line: these deals are where atheist globalist socialists join hands with atheist globalist corporatists to recreate the world into their vision of a New World Order = they are the enemies of America.


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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

Anyone know the ins/outs of this deal. It seems like every one of these big deals results in American on the losing side of the deal.

Why is the GOP pushing for it?

Am I missing something?




Because both sides are a full of corporate globalist and could care less about the average American.


Exactly.


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: Beer Belly] #1352556
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Yup. Exactly what WmHunter said. I have been saying this since Obama was elected. He's a globalist who is part of the group who wants a unified World government with him and his kind at the top. They have been working on this for decades. The liberal dems and the hard nosed conservative republicans can see it for what is and they both do not like it. That should tell you something.


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: Skinny] #1352573
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"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: WmHunter] #1352575
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What we need is some economic **nationalism** where OUR representatives actually look out for and protect US and OUR nation and economy vs. all this globalist garbage.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Pat_Buchanan_Free_Trade.htm

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/free-trade-middle-america/

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/we-need-more-economic-nationalists/

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Pat-Buc...4/23/id/640451/


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: WmHunter] #1352577
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THis one is from John Birch Society - but it is spot on.

http://www.jbs.org/legislation/moving-toward-world-government-via-free-trade-plans


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: Beer Belly] #1352591
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if obama is for it, I'm against it.....


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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: BhamFred] #1352938
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
if obama is for it, I'm against it.....


I am with you Fred. It has ZERO to do with the color of his skin. Everything that he has done as hurt this country. He has been the best president ever at accomplishing what he set out to do. Put this country in such a downward spiral that it may not recover.


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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
if obama is for it, I'm against it.....

+1

Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership - Trade Deal [Re: Beer Belly] #1353024
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America will lose in any world trade deal.

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This is an example of how international "free trade" deals work:

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/10/wto-rules-against-country-of-origin-labeling-on-meat-in-us/

You see, these deals establish *international* legal tribunals OVER America and the Nations and *rule* them. NAFTA started the process and there are also NAFTA supranational legal tribunals (courts) OVER America.

That say things like: you Americans cannot have laws that require origin of food labels. Yeah.

The Pacific and Atlantic deals will give these world courts (full of atheist socialists of course) power to decide American immigration and environmental laws and yeah, even attack gun and hunting rights.

**** It is by and through these "free trade" deals that the globalist socialists and globalist corporatists are putting together global government. And of course also the "climate change" "global warming" treaties. ****


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