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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: MattIce] #1303283
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Originally Posted by MattIce

Originally Posted by scrape
Iam a big hank fan. But he just lost some country boy cred with me. a real hunter doesn't bait deer period. I do however approve of only using it for mentally retarted children.

What is your definition of a real hunter?


someone that hunts deer instead of sitting by a pile of food.

I like the long hunting season we have here and would hate to see it shortened to 3weeks like the other states that do baiting.

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: James] #1303290
03/20/15 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by james
Originally Posted by Cuz-Pat
A little off the subject here but I wonder if Ol' Hank has ever visited Aldeer?

I'm sure he'd get a hearty welcome here. thumbup

I used to be a big Hank Jr. fan. Seen him in concert several times back in my younger days.
Hell yeah that would be cool! Tell u what man its gonna be a sad day when Ole Hank jr leaves this world



I seen ol Hank in concert in Birmingham years ago. He was so pilled up that there was a guy standing beside him to keep him from falling off the stage. He sang one song that had pieces of three of his songs in it and he was slurring so bad you couldn't hardly understand what he was saying. They finally ushered him off the stage and the opening act came back on and performed a song or two to many boos.


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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Todd1700] #1303326
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If deer heard health is the real issue, then why is feeding deer legal, as long as you don't hunt over it?


Now come on blumsden. Aren't you aware that the presence of a gun within 100 yards of corn instantly infects it with anthrax? LOL!

Good luck trying to debate the anti feeder guys. It's hopeless. They will not answer you on any specific point because they can't. For every attack they make on hunting over corn there is a counter attack that completely negates their point but they simply won't acknowledge it. Been down this road several times with them.

They will hurl names like lazy slob hunters at you for wanting bait legalized. And then go climb in a shooting house over a green patch. But that's OK because you know it takes all kinds of hard work and woodsmanship to climb into a shooting house over a green patch. You have to walk up those 4 steps; learn to work that latch on the door; and don't even get me started on the skills needed for those plexglass sliding windows. LOL!

You have guys that will rank you one click above a child molester for wanting bait legalized for deer and then board a plane and go shoot a bear in Canada over a bait barrel. Or go to Wyoming and kill an antelope by sitting in a blind next to the only water hole for 25 square miles. What's the difference you say? None at all. But common sense, logic and facts have nothing to do with their side in this debate. Using corn for bait is wrong because they were taught it's wrong and that's basically their only argument when you pin them down.

A corn feeder is bait placed in a specific location by man to lure game into gun or bow range.

A green patch is bait placed in a specific location by man to lure game into gun or bow range.

One is illegal but the other isn't despite there being no moral or ethical difference in the two. And that's the unassailable truth they cannot get around despite all the hair pulling and gnashing of teeth.

Todd, your a man after my own heart, great post. Gotcha, your saying as long as your bait has more protein in it, then your ok with it? What do have against corn? Your not anti-baiting, your anti-corn. Have a bad reaction to corn as a child or something? As i've said before, to me, its cheaper to have year round quality food plots, but if somebody wants to put out the bait of their choice, i'm ok with it. BTW,Nighthunter, nice jab to CNC's kidney. LOL

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: kodiak06] #1303355
03/20/15 02:51 AM
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Killing a deer here on the coast is 10x harder than down in Alabama and I still don't bait.


Kodiak, are you chasing the Columbian blacktails or whitetails in the coastal forest? That's on my bucket list. Gorgeous area out there.

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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: scrape] #1303374
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Originally Posted by scrape

I like the long hunting season we have here and would hate to see it shortened to 3weeks like the other states that do baiting.


What are you talking about? Not southern states.
SC has a rifle season that lasts from 15 AUG - 1 JAN. Rut in OCT.

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1303447
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i joined a new hunting club last year. Found me a spot I liked that has a bunch of acorns. Put me up a stand. I dont own a tractor or other equipment. Not to mention the timber company is not gonna be happy if I cut down some trees. So planting a decent food plot is out of the question. To increase my chances I use supplemental feeding. BUT as soon as I hunt the area, according to some it becomes baiting. I have to work with the tools I'm given. I just wanna hunt and be happy but I have to sneak to the stand like a LRRP for fear the dang popo gonna be waiting at my stand with a handful of feed thats still on the ground.



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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1303504
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I would guess that some of you'all fish with a bare hook.


Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: jacannon] #1303516
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Originally Posted by jacannon
I would guess that some of you'all fish with a bare hook.
I do for mullet.


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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1303566
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Florida season comes in about the same time as Bama's and you can hunt till the 22th of Feb. You can put out a dump truck load of corn and sit on top of it if you want to.

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Clem] #1303864
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Originally Posted by Clem
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Killing a deer here on the coast is 10x harder than down in Alabama and I still don't bait.


Kodiak, are you chasing the Columbian blacktails or whitetails in the coastal forest? That's on my bucket list. Gorgeous area out there.


Clem, it's blacky's... No whitetails here. They were A LOT easier in Alaska due to the open terrain. Here, it's timber company lands and every body and their brother road hunts since you can drive in. Mostly forkys that get killed.

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: jacannon] #1303903
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Originally Posted by jacannon
I would guess that some of you'all fish with a bare hook.

Not with rod and reel. I may try hanging some corn on my arrow while bowfishing. I have heard of folks putting bait out in a mesh bag for bowfishing. Cummings the spot I guess.

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: swamp_fever2002] #1303999
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Originally Posted by swamp_fever2002
Originally Posted by jacannon
I would guess that some of you'all fish with a bare hook.
I do for mullet.
Yeah, but your mullet is epic! laugh Is that still considered baiting?!?



Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
I Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here.
On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1304016
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His argument is stupid. Legalize bait so kids or injured vets can kill a deer. How about show them how and help them hunt to kill one. Take a kid to McDonald's and feed em lunch or show em how to hunt and they'll have lunch forever. Some of yall will probably crucify me for this but I feel like baiting for anything other than pests (hogs) is a poor ass show of an outdoorsman who doesn't have patience, young, old or disabled. IMHO of course.

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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: jacannon] #1304021
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Originally Posted by jacannon
I would guess that some of you'all fish with a bare hook.

No just shoot them with a 22


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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: WmHunter] #1304093
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
I'm so sick of this coming up each year. The reg that went into effect last year was supposed to put this issue to rest once and for all. Obviously it was just subterfuge to further advance the issue. mad

Corn bait is for incompetent unethical hunters.

It is bad enough that we already have battle of the food plots and people putting food plots right on property lines. Now it will be battle of the corn piles. And make no mistake, there will be arseholish unethical shmucky people putting it right on property lines too.


I hope the neighbors do. It would save me a lot of money!!

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Clem] #1304106
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Originally Posted by Clem

I just know Dan, have talked with him about this before and knows that the approval or denial by the Alabama Legislature or DCNR about this won't make a difference to EBSCO's bottom line.

If you really think Alabama approving "baiting" would make a difference to Dan then you don't know beans.

Nice slur, though.


I believe the corn that Walmart sells is provided by mr Dan. Feel free to ask him and correct me if I am wrong.

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Originally Posted by extreme heights hunter
Originally Posted by Clem

I just know Dan, have talked with him about this before and knows that the approval or denial by the Alabama Legislature or DCNR about this won't make a difference to EBSCO's bottom line.

If you really think Alabama approving "baiting" would make a difference to Dan then you don't know beans.

Nice slur, though.


I believe the corn that Walmart sells is provided by mr Dan. Feel free to ask him and correct me if I am wrong.

Why don't you just go still corn cobs of farmers stalks? laugh would it make a difference to you?


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Originally Posted by Bamabucks14
Originally Posted by extreme heights hunter
Originally Posted by Clem

I just know Dan, have talked with him about this before and knows that the approval or denial by the Alabama Legislature or DCNR about this won't make a difference to EBSCO's bottom line.

If you really think Alabama approving "baiting" would make a difference to Dan then you don't know beans.

Nice slur, though.


I believe the corn that Walmart sells is provided by mr Dan. Feel free to ask him and correct me if I am wrong.

Why don't you just go still corn cobs of farmers stalks? laugh would it make a difference to you?


Say what?

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I think it should be Legal 100%, BUT, I see a problem that could become commonplace with legalization, not related to wildlife health, related to money. People that already own land, or have tremendous amounts of disposable income, are by nature, going to be able to afford more corn/feed. The guys that have to pay a ridiculous amount of money just to lease paper company land may not have as much left over disposable income to pay for corn/feed. I can see that causing problems if it is made legal. It may not be an issue, because a guy with 20k of disposable income could already plant more food plots etc., but I can see where it could become an issue.

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Originally Posted by blumsden
Originally Posted by Todd1700
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If deer heard health is the real issue, then why is feeding deer legal, as long as you don't hunt over it?


Now come on blumsden. Aren't you aware that the presence of a gun within 100 yards of corn instantly infects it with anthrax? LOL!

Good luck trying to debate the anti feeder guys. It's hopeless. They will not answer you on any specific point because they can't. For every attack they make on hunting over corn there is a counter attack that completely negates their point but they simply won't acknowledge it. Been down this road several times with them.

They will hurl names like lazy slob hunters at you for wanting bait legalized. And then go climb in a shooting house over a green patch. But that's OK because you know it takes all kinds of hard work and woodsmanship to climb into a shooting house over a green patch. You have to walk up those 4 steps; learn to work that latch on the door; and don't even get me started on the skills needed for those plexglass sliding windows. LOL!

You have guys that will rank you one click above a child molester for wanting bait legalized for deer and then board a plane and go shoot a bear in Canada over a bait barrel. Or go to Wyoming and kill an antelope by sitting in a blind next to the only water hole for 25 square miles. What's the difference you say? None at all. But common sense, logic and facts have nothing to do with their side in this debate. Using corn for bait is wrong because they were taught it's wrong and that's basically their only argument when you pin them down.

A corn feeder is bait placed in a specific location by man to lure game into gun or bow range.

A green patch is bait placed in a specific location by man to lure game into gun or bow range.

One is illegal but the other isn't despite there being no moral or ethical difference in the two. And that's the unassailable truth they cannot get around despite all the hair pulling and gnashing of teeth.

Todd, your a man after my own heart, great post. Gotcha, your saying as long as your bait has more protein in it, then your ok with it? What do have against corn? Your not anti-baiting, your anti-corn. Have a bad reaction to corn as a child or something? As i've said before, to me, its cheaper to have year round quality food plots, but if somebody wants to put out the bait of their choice, i'm ok with it. BTW,Nighthunter, nice jab to CNC's kidney. LOL


Blumsden, you done hurt my feelings now. Sorry I didn't notice the direct jab earlier. Corn is for ethynol and corn flakes. OK, let's start a business venture. "Deer in a Bag" sounds good. We can debate this forever, and you will still be Blumsden and I will still be right. laugh


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