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Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215765
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Warden in Hale Co set up on Co Rd 50, heading east out of Moundville. Set the decoy behind a five strand barbed wire fence, and maybe 20 yards off the road. Fella in a truck had no gun, sop he drove the truck thru the fence and ran over the decoy!!!!!

A year er so late same GW set up near to there, decoy behind another fence, but drug a log up in front of the decoy.....same result. Fella drove thru the fence, over the log, and smashed the decoy.....



Bahaha! Reminds me of the incomplete deer hunter Here Same thing

Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215767
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Great thread Fred! Keep the stories coming.

So here's a question: How is setting up a decoy not some form of entrapment or baiting a hunter to break a law? I know what the hunter is doing is illegal, but it just seems like entrapment.


Jesus... I hope you know Him personally like I do.

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Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215768
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We set up one night near Brookwood, just in Jefferson Co. Truck came by and slowed at the decoy, sat a second and took off. 30 minutes later it returned and a shot was fired at the decoy. Truck took off, followed closely by Richard. I stayed to lay the decoy down to keep it from being shot, or stolen, while chasing the shooter.

Richard comes back in 20 er so minutes with the truck. Turns out the first guy didn't have a gun, so he drove to his PREACHERS house to get a gun. Preacher got a rifle, and in his housecoat and slippers , rode back to shoot the decoy....


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: Claims Rep.] #1215770
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Originally Posted by Claims Rep.
Great thread Fred! Keep the stories coming.

So here's a question: How is setting up a decoy not some form of entrapment or baiting a hunter to break a law? I know what the hunter is doing is illegal, but it just seems like entrapment.


because the courts ruled it is not entrapment. We ain't making the fellas shoot, only providing something for them to shoot if they are inclined....


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215782
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by Claims Rep.
Great thread Fred! Keep the stories coming.

So here's a question: How is setting up a decoy not some form of entrapment or baiting a hunter to break a law? I know what the hunter is doing is illegal, but it just seems like entrapment.


because the courts ruled it is not entrapment. We ain't making the fellas shoot, only providing something for them to shoot if they are inclined....


Interesting.

I bet it would really be some high adrenaline waiting for the idots to come by and shoot!


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Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215785
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We reset up in the same place after they left and waited. Truck comes by, slows, and shoots, and takes off...FAST. Richard takes off after him, I lay the decoy down. After 30 minutes I call Richard on the radio. No answer. I call again...no answer. 45 minutes and I'm getting worried about Richard. Finally after an hour he calls me, headed back to our location.

He pulls up with the shooters truck with him. I can head a woman yelling like crazy, mad and screaming. I figger at Richard laugh not, she's yelling at the driver, her husband. Richard says go look, you won't believe it....kid about four years old in a car seat in the truck. Driver was going like a bat out of hell running from Richard for over 30 miles. Richard said they both almost wrecked a couple of times. Ended up way down in Tusc Co. Richard had to get the shooter to lead him back to me. Wife was screaming at him the whole time to stop....

I'm writing the guy up and Richard is trying to calm the screaming hysterical woman down. Guy wants to know if he is going to jail....hell no I say, I'm sending you home with that mad as hell woman. He damn near cries.....

I almost(not) felt sorry for him....

I really wanted to sign a child endangerment warrant on him....


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: Claims Rep.] #1215788
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Originally Posted by Claims Rep.
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Great thread Fred! Keep the stories coming.

So here's a question: How is setting up a decoy not some form of entrapment or baiting a hunter to break a law? I know what the hunter is doing is illegal, but it just seems like entrapment.


because the courts ruled it is not entrapment. We ain't making the fellas shoot, only providing something for them to shoot if they are inclined....


Interesting.

I bet it would really be some high adrenaline waiting for the idots to come by and shoot!



actually the waiting was boring as all get out...lost of time waiting sometimes. Once the shooting started, not so boring!!!


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215791
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gotta go lock the chickens up, back in a minute er three...


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215794
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Good stuff right there.

Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215800
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I love these stories. PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING!


"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215822
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Dang, not sure if hunting deer or hunting road hunters sounds more fun...

Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215836
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These are awesome, how many repeat offenders over the years? I bet some people never learn.

Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215840
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Great to hear these stories, could read em all night.

Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215866
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What do these people do with the deer? Do they just leave them laying there or try to get them?

Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: getoutdoors] #1215873
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Originally Posted by getoutdoors
What do these people do with the deer? Do they just leave them laying there or try to get them?


on the decoys they don't have time to make that decision laugh laugh


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: bowhunter86] #1215898
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Originally Posted by bowhunter86
These are awesome, how many repeat offenders over the years? I bet some people never learn.


one of my personal favorites..."I LEARNT SOMETHING"......

Richard, Randy, and I set up west Jeff Co one day, on a pipeline. One side went up a steep incline with road access maybe 40 yards above the road, perfect spot to film from. Richard set up in chase truck up a side road, maybe 300 yards away.

Truck comes laft to right, five folks in the truck, see the decoy and slow, then go on and stop 200 yards up the road. Three guys get in the back of the truck and head back to the pipeline.

Decoy was my "walking" buck. While they were loading up I walked it to the edge of the pipeline fro the middle. As they stopped I wiggled the tail and turned the head. Sounded like a dang war down there, Richard was on em before they stopped shooting. LOL

I slid down the hill and gathered up guns and IDs. Two of em were juveniles and stayed with me while Richard wrote up the adults. I was talking to one of the juveniles and he asked what it was going to cost his brothers(the two adults)? I said prolly $400 apiece. He looked longfaced and said "well, I guess we won't get no Christmas this year". This was first week of Dec as I recall. He then said he didn't get no Christmas last year because his daddy go caught shooting A decoy. I asked his daddys name....LOL, it was the preacher in an earlier story.....I told the boy his daddy shot the same decoy as he did.

Sensing a learning moment here, I said maybe when ya'll are driving down the road and see a deer, ya might just try NOT shooting it from the road. Maybe you could learn something from this???

He looked at me and said...." I learnt something allright, I'll not shoot another one til it starts to RUN"....

I think maybe he missed what I was trying to say....


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215901
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Troy, there's still a lot of deer down that road by the little cahaba. I have a buddy that has killed several really big deer on 50 acres they have between there and brook highland.

Seems like you have a pretty good one about chasing some poachers through liberty park?

Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215921
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Richard and I kept good records the first year we had decoys. We(the State, thru the courts) collected something like $30,000 in fines that year just from our two decoys. They cost $1100, thats a pretty good return on the investment over four months.....

We went to Montgomery with our records to talk Montgomery into buying every county a decoy, a total of just over $35,000 at that time. We made almost that much in ONE county in one season.

All the office could say was "do you know how much that would cost??"

Well yes, I just told you $35,000......

repeat the last two sentences about ten times.....

I finally said I'd buy a decoy for each county. They wanted to know where I'd get the money??? WTH??? I said I'd get it, but I wanted 1/2 of the fine money collected. Hail no they wouldn't agree to that grin grin Finallly gave up on selling the decoy idea to Montgomery....

Do ya'll know anyone who would turn down an investment like that in the private sector????? Spend $1100 and get back $30,000 in four months????

Damn shortsighted folks....


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Re: A Wardens Tale...decoys [Re: BhamFred] #1215925
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I used to be in a club with a guy that shot a decoy over in Georgia one time, it was during the day and he drove past the field, parked and slipped through the woods back to the edge of the field and blasted the decoy. GW's never saw him till he shot, they couldn't get him for all the good sheit, only got him for hunting on private property, 250 dollar fine.
My wife at the time was a commercial artist, we got a huge piece of cardboard and we had her draw a huge buck on it, and then we cut it out. We took the cardboard deer and put it in some bushes about 150 yards from his stand late on Friday night, he shows up Saturday morning and as soon as it got barely shooting light, we heard him blast it three times. A few minutes later you could hear him mf'ing us a mile away.

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Originally Posted by mirage243
I used to be in a club with a guy that shot a decoy over in Georgia one time, it was during the day and he drove past the field, parked and slipped through the woods back to the edge of the field and blasted the decoy. GW's never saw him till he shot, they couldn't get him for all the good sheit, only got him for hunting on private property, 250 dollar fine.
My wife at the time was a commercial artist, we got a huge piece of cardboard and we had her draw a huge buck on it, and then we cut it out. We took the cardboard deer and put it in some bushes about 150 yards from his stand late on Friday night, he shows up Saturday morning and as soon as it got barely shooting light, we heard him blast it three times. A few minutes later you could hear him mf'ing us a mile away.


A guy over in ga was on the dawson forest bear hunt. The warden had put up a bear decoy on the wma over 100yds off the road. The sob saw it, went a ways down the road, parked, slipped around and shot it from behind the game warden. Legally.

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