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Biologist?
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01/02/15 03:53 PM
01/02/15 03:53 PM
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jwillinfl
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jwillinfl
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Hey guys, been in a club a couple if years and curious what your thoughts are about having a biologist look at property and give you a good assessment of the deer in your property. We have some new members and trying to get them to understand the deer that are there and what should be killed or not. Thanks.
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Re: Biologist?
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#1210616
01/02/15 03:58 PM
01/02/15 03:58 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,654 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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Booner
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Posts: 14,654
Tuscaloosa Co.
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The hardest thing to manage is the people not the animals. I would do it, if the members would listen to the biologist.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Biologist?
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#1210623
01/02/15 04:02 PM
01/02/15 04:02 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,797 Lower AL
k bush
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12 point
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Posts: 5,797
Lower AL
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Look up Mark Buxton on Facebook and look through his posts.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Biologist?
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#1210629
01/02/15 04:06 PM
01/02/15 04:06 PM
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,876 tampa,fl
slayinbucks24/7
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10 point
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Posts: 2,876
tampa,fl
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The hardest thing to manage is the people not the animals. I would do it, if the members would listen to the biologist. This.. maybe if you have trail cam pics of what kind of deer the property holds,you could show the members the potential of the property so they can hAve a little more restraint. Good luck
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Re: Biologist?
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#1210650
01/02/15 04:18 PM
01/02/15 04:18 PM
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jwillinfl
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jwillinfl
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Thanks guys. I don't know the rate but I think hearing an expert could help us set realistic guidelines. Everyone's opinion if a shooter is different but we also want to be fair. I also think it might help with planting, etc. I figured it couldn't hurt.
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Re: Biologist?
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#1210651
01/02/15 04:19 PM
01/02/15 04:19 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,517 Land of the free because of th...
mike35549
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If you have what most people would consider average deer density for Alabama. The following will be close if you have what would be considered high deer density or what would be considered low deer density you will have to change the doe recommendation up or down accordingly. Kill at least one doe for 100 acres. Don't shoot bucks based on number of points learn to judge age and try not to shoot any bucks younger than 3.5 years old. If you are going to try and manage for only mature trophy deer you may need to up the doe harvest to one per 75 acres and try not to kill and bucks younger than 5.5 years old. Try and kill all of your required does as early in the season ass possible. I am not a biologist but have had suggestions from several over the last 25 years, and I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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Re: Biologist?
[Re: treyholmes83]
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01/02/15 04:58 PM
01/02/15 04:58 PM
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Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 9,993 Hampton Cove
foldemup
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what is the going rate for a biologist to come access your property? just looking for a ballpark figure if it is possible. figure they are like everything else price will depend on how long, and what all he does. to be honest never had it done and don't know Contact nighthunter on here.....it's free.
If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!
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Re: Biologist?
[Re: k bush]
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01/02/15 05:39 PM
01/02/15 05:39 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,517 Land of the free because of th...
mike35549
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Look up Mark Buxton on Facebook and look through his posts. If the land that guy manages is in Alabama it is some of the best land this state has to offer. Big corn fields and soybean fields and so few people hunting them they let him shoot the culls. Places like that are out of reach for 99% of the people on this site and in this state, and you will not get those results hunting the type of land those 99% hunt. But it is nice to dream.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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Re: Biologist?
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01/02/15 05:51 PM
01/02/15 05:51 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 17,218 Huntsville, AL
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Old Mossy Horns
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Posts: 17,218
Huntsville, AL
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Let me save you some time.... go kill 575 dozen does and you'll start seeing bigger bucks. There ya go.
Jesus... I hope you know Him personally like I do.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Proud crossbow hunter!
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Re: Biologist?
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01/03/15 06:08 AM
01/03/15 06:08 AM
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Joined: May 2000
Posts: 4,573 Petal,MS,USA
SFC3
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Posts: 4,573
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Most State biologists come for free... I had our #1 State guy AND our local guy come once...learned a ton
Grumpy Old MS Bastage
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Re: Biologist
[Re: Jwattsmojo]
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01/03/15 09:23 AM
01/03/15 09:23 AM
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Posts: 1,316 Cherokee Co. Al.
bgarrett
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Heres my two cents on shootin does around here.. shoot a ga zillion does and you wont see deer for years.. they get nocturnal My in father in law joined a 1200 acre club that guys had given up by a previous group of hunters.. You couldnt buy a deer for 3 years and the deer that did step out would look up directly up after stepping into fields or open woods. Spooky was not even the word. This...I had the same thing. took over a brown and down lease of 750ac. First year the deer walked around looking in trees.(what was still there) 4 years latter of not shooting does, I have seen 55 deer with 8 being bucks. Have had 2 or 3 nice bucks each year and 6-8 fawns make it each year. I have added 9 food plots with 4 being year round clover. With the ajoining woods and crops there are about 40 deer on 1200 ac. We have taken 8 this year. The yotes get a couple.
It's not a Passion, it's an Obsession. That's what I tell my wife, but she promptly informs it's a disease to which is incurable.
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Re: Biologist?
[Re: DMax]
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01/03/15 01:41 PM
01/03/15 01:41 PM
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mike35549
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I live in North Alabama and joined a hunting club five years ago. Just before I got in the club they had a state biologist come look at the property. He said to shoot does until you don't see them anymore and you will still have plenty. Now that will make for good hunting. LMAO.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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