I'm not near the bowhunter some of you guys are. But I will say one thing being both a gun hunter and bow hunter...its tuff to kill deer with a bow. A lot of effort put into it typcially with scouting, set-ups, and the list goes on. I get way more excited in bow kills than any of my gun kills combined, literally. Hats off to you guys who stick with it year round. Enjoy reading your posts, and picking up some ideas, etc. Good luck.