Most of my mature bucks are shot within 5 seconds of seeing them. I leave no room for them to escape. I here people tell me that they saw an 8ptr that morning but couldn't get a shot off. If you see a deer good enough to know that he is an 8 ptr, then he should be dead if he met your harvest criteria. If you wait until he's in the wide open and completely broadside, you ain't killing many mature bucks. You have to learn to shoot thru small openings with only being able to see parts of the deer.
Blumsden...I have always agreed with what you have to say and have grown some nice clover plots thanks to your advice. However I made a major mistake last week. I had a 15" 4 point with no brow tines come through and 5 min. later I had a nice wide 6 with no brow tines bust through with no shot (in thick hard woods). 5 min. later I see the big 6 at 85 yds and only have small window with only seeing part of the deer and part of the rack. I made a clean kill. When I went to see that nice wide 6 it turned out to be the 4. Made me sick, looking back I should have not made that shot without seeing the full rack.