Dirkdaddy, i can't speak to your situation, but thinned pines don't have a lot of cover and sometimes limited native browse, that along with your neighbors and the coyotes, may be keeping the deer held up in some thick nasty spots during the day, that or, like you say, the density is low. On my mountain property, we are not seeing much, as far as deer goes. Thousands of contiguous acres of hardwoods, loaded with acorns, is the culprit, i'm sure. I'll be moving to the club property in about 10 days. Basically no one has been hunting it, since gun season started.