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Re: parenting advice [Re: Vulkanman] #1057572
08/27/14 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: Vulkanman
Originally Posted By: straycat
Another thing to try is to cut out all artificial food coloring/dye. It causes hyperactivity and irritability in some kids. Go read some labels and try it for a few weeks to see if it makes a difference. You'll be shocked at how many products have red 40, yellow this, blue that, etc.

Doritos and other chips
Colored Gatorade and lots of drinks.
Majority of boxed and processed foods.
Candy, gum, ice cream treats, mints
Etc...

You have to change the way you shop but it might make a difference. Never will know til you try it.

I speak from personal experience with my oldest son and various physician consults.






THIS!!

My 2 sons were both diagnosed & medicated & it was horrible! Mood swings, sleeping disruptions, irritability, just terrible! We eliminated all MSG & food dyes over the summer, red #40 seemed to be the worst, and miraculously nearly all the problems went away. Nearly half our population has reactions to MSG & don't know it.
IT TAKES A LOT OF EFFORT!!
There is petroleum based food dyes in nearly all processed or canned food. You have to read labels religiously, and monitor constantly, kids always want things to be like "normal" kids eat, drink etc. A Dominos pizza or can of ravioli can ruin all your efforts and you have to start over. It's hard work, but your kids are worth it. You'll feel better not eating that crap too! My wife became "Lola Granola", she is adamant that a lot of our society's problems are because we eat things that literally change your body chemistry and then ingest other chemicals to counteract it. Read labels & look up the various chemicals, you'll be amazed that you've been eating this stuff without knowing it!


Parenting.


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Re: parenting advice [Re: ] #1057879
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CT, I agree that proper parenting that balances love and discipline, is proactive and intentional, is consistent, and ain't scared to blister a butt when needed is the key to raising up well behaved kids.

BUT the food coloring and other reactions are real issues for SOME kids. My sons are good kids but if my oldest has certain dyes he is literally a different person. We've tested this over and over and I know without any doubt that dye and other chemicals can alter moods and personality of some children.

Parenting is essential and irreplaceable. Knowing if certain foods cause your child negative issues is part of good parenting too.

Just my perspective and experience.


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Re: parenting advice [Re: straycat] #1057978
08/27/14 05:38 PM
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I agree Mike. All that is part of the parenting job.
Had a nephew (the one that passed away this year frown ) Call me one day a few years ago for Uncle Charley advice. Ask him what he was doing, Baby sitting he says. He (left behind three beautiful kids). I informed he wasn't baby sitting, he was parentng. There IS a difference. crazy


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Re: parenting advice [Re: top cat] #1058009
08/27/14 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: top cat
Kids DON'T need meds, they need parents. Sry but thats the Gods truth. Hate me if you will.


That's the biggest BS uninformed ignorant statement that has EVER been posted on this forum. And that is a hell of an accomplishment, considering some of the characters that post here.

Steelman - my little brother has been a part of a study that was/is being done by the University of South Carolina (I believe that is the university). While I am firm believer that many parents, doctors, and children use the term to excuse poor behavior and possibly poor parenting. Regardless of what anyone may say - there are circumstances that diet, discipline, medication,...etc. simply don't solve or even help. If you would like to send me a PM - I would be happy to share with you and possibly put you in contact with my dad who could certainly relate better than I can, and share with you what actions they took. I will say this about their actions - it was very difficult and hurtful. Additionally, it was very expensive - but, while my little brother may still have some tendencies - he is better able to function in society and has learned to control his outbursts.


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Re: parenting advice [Re: Hunting-231] #1058051
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Originally Posted By: Hunting-231
Originally Posted By: top cat
Kids DON'T need meds, they need parents. Sry but thats the Gods truth. Hate me if you will.


That's the biggest BS uninformed ignorant statement that has EVER been posted on this forum. And that is a hell of an accomplishment, considering some of the characters that post here.



I think he hated you tc
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Re: parenting advice [Re: ] #1058073
08/28/14 12:37 AM
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I am a tough love kind of parent. I have always been against drugs for add but last year our doctor put my 16 year old son on light meds and it made a huge difference in his grades. He now tells us how much more he can focus in class and listens to what the teachers say instead of counting ceiling tiles like I used to to. I know I have the same issues with concentration and as he was being tested my wife told me I scored higher on the scale than my son for needing meds. She still begs me to try it and I might.


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Re: parenting advice [Re: JTapia] #1058141
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Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: Hunting-231
Originally Posted By: top cat
Kids DON'T need meds, they need parents. Sry but thats the Gods truth. Hate me if you will.


That's the biggest BS uninformed ignorant statement that has EVER been posted on this forum. And that is a hell of an accomplishment, considering some of the characters that post here.





I think he hated you tc


popcorn


Not even close to the stupidest stuff poasted here. I don't give a rats arse. I stand by it.

Last edited by top cat; 08/28/14 02:50 AM.

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Re: parenting advice [Re: top cat] #1058183
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Originally Posted By: top cat


I don't give a rats arse. I stand by it.


Obviously you don't give a chit, you chose to be an ass.

A guy comes to the forum with something that is heavy on his heart in regards to his child. And your callus response basically said the issues with his son were poor parenting.

Last edited by Hunting-231; 08/28/14 03:14 AM.

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Re: parenting advice [Re: ] #1058345
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Steelman I think an opinion regarding your discipline should be reserved for people who know you and your child. You stated your have been persistent with that. There are many studies that identify traits of oldest, middle and youngest siblings. Sounds like yours is quite the typical story. If you have access to a big University many have programs to access children. I was amazed at what they could tell us about our son after a half day of testing at about that age. As suggested above I'd look at diet and seek the help of a professional before he gets to age that he may not cooperate. I personally wouldn't take the advise of a GP and run with it. Best of wishes to you!


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Re: parenting advice [Re: Bowfool] #1058392
08/28/14 04:44 AM
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Thanks for all of the replies and advise, there is a lot of very good info to read over and take in that's been posted. It's definately not a parenting problem, my other 2 are just fine, all kids are different and he is his own person, some days are great, others not so much..we will work through it and try to help him improve..one thing we haven't tried is his diet but will definately do so after reading the posts, thanks again

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Re: parenting advice [Re: top cat] #1058406
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Originally Posted By: top cat
Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: Hunting-231
Originally Posted By: top cat
Kids DON'T need meds, they need parents. Sry but thats the Gods truth. Hate me if you will.


That's the biggest BS uninformed ignorant statement that has EVER been posted on this forum. And that is a hell of an accomplishment, considering some of the characters that post here.





I think he hated you tc


popcorn


Not even close to the stupidest stuff poasted here. I don't give a rats arse. I stand by it.



I don't hate you top cat.. you are entitled to your opinion like everyone else, but I can assure you it's not a parenting problem.. maybe you should stop drinking so much beer for dinner and posting on here beers

Last edited by steelman; 08/28/14 04:53 AM.
Re: parenting advice [Re: ] #1058757
08/28/14 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: steelman
Originally Posted By: top cat
Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: Hunting-231
Originally Posted By: top cat
Kids DON'T need meds, they need parents. Sry but thats the Gods truth. Hate me if you will.


That's the biggest BS uninformed ignorant statement that has EVER been posted on this forum. And that is a hell of an accomplishment, considering some of the characters that post here.





I think he hated you tc


popcorn


Not even close to the stupidest stuff poasted here. I don't give a rats arse. I stand by it.



I don't hate you top cat.. you are entitled to your opinion like everyone else, but I can assure you it's not a parenting problem.. maybe you should stop drinking so much beer for dinner and posting on here beers


Good idea.


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Re: parenting advice [Re: ] #1058768
08/28/14 09:32 AM
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I'm gonna host a ass grin whipping similar here shortly if any one wants to attend..no queers smile


Seminar, maybe?


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Re: parenting advice [Re: Brent] #1058780
08/28/14 09:39 AM
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Yep seminar, dang auto correct strikes again grin

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