That's why I didn't want anybody to think I was bashing anybody. It is extremely important that we maintain a relationship with each other. It's just with the downward economy, getting members to pay big bucks to maintain leases is getting harder. Just like timber business expenses, hunting clubs feel the same pressures. Price of seed, fertilizer, and fuel have doubled. Thus, making establishing and maintaining food plots more expensive. I agree also that the business is a lot different from past. It's a lot tougher I know to make much as money. Guess that's where we are at this point? I'm not thinking it will get any cheaper lol.