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Re: Deer vs. Hog population
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07/01/14 12:26 PM
07/01/14 12:26 PM
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Firefighter Bill
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On Bankhead hogs outnumber deer 10 to 1 at a MINIMUM.
I have noticed as hogs move in deer move on to better habitat with less competition. They'll eventually have no choice but to coexist because deer are losing hog free places every day.
I still don't think it's a doomsday scenario. Deer and hogs do ok together in other states with a much higher concentration of hogs. If this is known to be the case , why are we not allowing dogs in there to eradicate them? Why don't we allow deer rifles in there year round? If they are running the deer off what does it matter if a few deer are poached if we can thin the hawg herd some? Until the powers that be decide to get rid of them they are gonna expand their territory. Encourage folks to kill them with any weapon any time of year and they MIGHT slow them down. Dog hunters don't eradicate hogs. They catch a few and keep the hogs on such sporadic patterns it makes it nearly impossible to trap them. The forest service allows dogs for hogs all summer, as well as high-powered rifles. It sounds like a good idea in theory, but the amount of participation during the hot, humid, tick and snake infested summer in mountainous terrain is minimal. There is no difference in hog damage or reports from forest service and WMA lands. If hog dog hunters made a difference it would be apparent. We are actively trapping entire sounders and conducting strategic shooting operations at night. We are doing what we can. The powers that be have enough information to make informed decisions, and opening a WMA up to dog hunters and year round rifle hunters for hogs is not going to happen. Research has shown constant disturbance is counter productive to trapping effort. Right now we are catching 12-22 hogs per catch in traps. That's removing entire family groups at a time. Instead of catching a few hogs here and there. Hog hunters can probably catch as many as a trapper if you look at the numbers on a per day basis, but they can't strategically remove every hog and move over the landscape catching hogs and removing every individual. Well if you need any help with the night shooting , I have a 300 blackout AR15 and a couple boxes of sub sonic ammo thats reserved for hog killin.
Lead, follow or get the HELL outa the way!
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