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Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions #417841
10/05/12 11:07 AM
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http://www.reporterherald.com/columnists/homewaters/ci_21684278/hunt-records-may-destroy-hunting


I especially liked (and agree with) the section that reads:

"...I've never been a fan of hunting contests, big rack tournaments, "tape-measure" hunting or other similar, gratuitous hunting events. They create a horribly distorted and incredibly destructive image of what traditional, fair chase hunting and game conservation is all about.

Killing animals for fame, fortune, celebrity status, bogus awards and meaningless titles... portrays us and what we do in the worst possible light to the millions of non-hunters who have little understanding of what our legitimate purpose is or what our responsibilities to our game herds and flocks are. It's evident from the number of hunting competitions, high-dollar canned hunts and closed-fence trophy hunts these days that a lot of hunters have lost sight of it too.

Hunting isn't, nor should it be, about ego-gratification, score keeping and phony, grandiose titles. Taking a representative big buck or bull for a personal wall mount and utilizing all of the meat is a time-honored tradition, but shooting animals for cash prizes or hollow recognition and then trying to convince the rest of the world that we hold our game animals in the highest regard reeks of the same kind of hypocrisy animal-rights groups practice.
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Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #417852
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Very good point and something we as a group need to keep reminding ourselfs.


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Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #417856
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Very good read..thanks.


On the Eighth day God created flounder.
Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #417890
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Some good points were made in that article.


Here's some more good reading that is the basis of my idea of hunting:

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24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

29 And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.

30 Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food”; and it was so.

31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.




The Holy Bible, Genesis Chapter 1

I deserve no credit for God's Creation.

I'm honored to have been given dominion over it... and I join God in praising His work when I have the opportunity to share it.

All I can think of to say when I see His Creation is: "It is indeed very good!!"

Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #417934
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Good article!


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Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: Matt07] #417969
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Originally Posted By: Matt07
Very good point and something we as a group need to keep reminding ourselfs.


Don't worry, I'll keep reminding hunters of this! wink

Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #418078
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Excellent post, I've got 3 young nephews and son to introduce to hunting. Trophy hunting will be taking a back seat pretty soon.

Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #418083
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It's all about the meat, the experience and just being in Gods great outdoors.

Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #418354
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If only, oh never mind the hard heads will never be able to understand, and will continue to ask the Gubment to impose their view on everyone. Sad but true commentary!


"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #418603
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Good read



Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #418826
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blush I'd like to thank all of you for your kind remarks. I thought when this piece was published, I'd get hammered by a bunch of testosterone infused power hunters, but exactly the opposite has happened. It was refreshing to learn so many outdoorsmen still respect our traditional, fair chase values. BSK, I wonder if you'd be kind enough to tell me how you came upon this column. I know my local newspaper publishes on-line for local subscribers, but I'm curious to know how a deer hunter in Nashville, TN, stumble on an outdoor column from a small town newspaper in Colorado? Thanks again for your support.


It ain't the arrow; it's the Indian.
Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #418886
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BRNO - do you collect WWII era mausers?

Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: M48scout] #418972
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No, I don't collect them. I just have a little Brno 7x57 that I'm really fond of... full stock, butterknife bolt, set triggers, shoots straight...


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Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: Brno] #419003
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Thanks for your article Dennis.

Your message is one that needs to be heard and put into practice.

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Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: Brno] #419030
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Originally Posted By: Brno
BSK, I wonder if you'd be kind enough to tell me how you came upon this column. I know my local newspaper publishes on-line for local subscribers, but I'm curious to know how a deer hunter in Nashville, TN, stumble on an outdoor column from a small town newspaper in Colorado? Thanks again for your support.


It was linked on another hunting forum, www.tndeer.com. I'll ask the original poster how they found the column. And by the way, the fight against "trophyism," which in my opinion is ruining hunting, is a major endeavor of mine.

Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: BSK] #419079
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Hey, Thanks for the info. I'm intrigued by how this little column has covered so much territitory in such a short time.

The obsession with monster racks has been kind of a curiosity to me ever since I was a kid, but it's gotten to the point where it seems to drive some guys to ego-manical extremes - and an increase in poaching (at least around here). People - I don't consider them hunters for obvious reasons - are killing big elk, taking the heads and capes and leaving the bodies to rot, then making up some BS story about how they shot a booner or some such. Not good.

The constant publication and TV broadcsting of "another world record" this or that makes things difficult for those of us who are trying to teach our kids and grandkids what ethical, traditional fair-chase hunting is really about. Many of them watch that stuff on TV and think they gotta bag a 180 buck or they aren't "real" hunters. It's the old "fastest gun in the west" complex all over again. Or maybe just another manifestation of penis envy. Whatever it is, it's sending a poor message to the non-hunting public and in the end, their votes outnumber ours.


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Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: Brno] #419112
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Dennis,

If you don't mind returning the favor from BSK, I'd like to know, and he may as well, how you found this reference to your article in this thread in this forum.

Eddie

Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: 49er] #419276
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Eddie,

Sure. Glad to help.

The day after my column was published in the Loveland Reporter-Herald, I received an e-mail from Jeff Dute, an outdoors reporter for the Alabama Press-Register (in Mobile, I believe). He just wanted to say he was in agreement with my concern, and invited me to hunt or fish with him if I ever found myself in Alabama.

I was kind of stunned. I often get commentary from locals regarding my columns, but Alabama?? I was intrigued.

So I returned his e-mail to thank him for his kind words of support, and asked how he happened across my Colorado column in AL. He directed me to this forum. I've sinced learned it came to Aldeer.com from another deer hunting forum in Tenessee. Now I want to find out how it popped up there. Ya gotta love the Internet, eh?

I'm glad to see that others are as concerned as I am about this issue. I was beginning to think maybe I was crazy - or just an old curmudgeon. And maybe I am, but apparently I'm not alone.

Best,
Dennis


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Re: Good opinion article on trophyism and hunting competitions [Re: Brno] #419298
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Dennis,

Crazy indeed. Before your response to my question, I had been in contact with Jeff by email with my comments on one of his recent articles. I shared the link to your article that BSK had posted with him in the process.

I guess now, the circle is complete. He thanked me, but said nothing about already having read your article.

Good luck on finding the tndeer.com link and how it got there.

Good hunting,
Eddie


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