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Inflation and Insurance #4126496
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One of the financial networks was reporting this week that one of the major contributors to inflation was insurance costs. Well; I believe it. Just got my auto insurance renewal and my rate has gone up 62% in 2 years !! No claims, no violations and the vehicles are depreciated in value 2 more years.
Good grief!

Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126497
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What company are you with


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Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126498
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Home prices, vehicle prices, groceries and various insurances
Those 4 are all items we need and can’t be without.
Even if your house is paid off, it costs substantially more to call a plumber today than it did Q1 2020.

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Originally Posted by Zzzfog
What company are you with


Safeco

Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126501
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Insurance is a fracking racket. My auto insurance is north of $550 per month (no wrecks in 4+ yrs and no tickets in 15 yrs at least) Homeowners, through the roof. I also insure all of my toys (SXS, Bass Boats, Pontoons, Campers, Etc.) that's another couple hundred a month.

I won't even get in to workers comp and liability insurance.

Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126518
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Yep, ALFA increased the coverage on my house a little , but increased the premium A LOT! My cousin is the agent, he's looking into it. smirk



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Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126523
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Not even going to tell you what it cost for 28,000sqf of building and three million in inventory on the island.

Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126524
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You are right, however, that is a larger increase than most companies have taken if indeed you are claim/accident/violation free. You need to shop it. The cost to settle liability claims (see the billboards in your area for more details) has gone up drastically in recent years. The cost to repair vehicles has gone up drastically. Accident rates have gone up. Companies have lost money the last few years on auto insurance and they can't keep doing that or they will be broke. So, rates go up.

I will tell all of you this and I have sold insurance for 30 years so I know a little about it. You are better off to purchase $1000 deductibles for auto (and higher on home) and don't file little claims. Companies used to not hold "not at fault" incidents and glass claims against you but that is no longer the case. The more claims you file, the more you are going to pay. It is cheaper in the long run to pay the small stuff out of pocket and save your insurance for the big stuff.

Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126527
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Yep, I will be insurance shopping Monday

Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: JohnG] #4126531
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Originally Posted by JohnG
Not even going to tell you what it cost for 28,000sqf of building and three million in inventory on the island.


The absurd part of your situation, and mine to a smaller extent, is the replacement cost they force on you for the building and then stick you with a 5% wind deductible. So before they pay a damn thing, you’re out of pocket a ridiculous amount of money. I don’t think they’ll ever pay a wind claim with the way they’re valuing properties and setting the deductible amounts. And they’ve all gotten smart and typically will not write a policy excluding wind anymore, because they know the wind coverage is where they will make all the profit.

Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126579
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It’s not just personal lines. Commercial lines are higher too. Just got a renewal for one of my clients commercial packages and the premium increased a little but the carrier also bumped the windstorm deductible up to 10%. His BPP isn’t even half of that so not good. Looking for another carrier for him but that’s difficult in FL. He has never had a claim ever. One of the captive insurance agencies I have as a client also had increased premiums on their Commercial coverage too but other insurance agents understand why. rofl But the lesson here is to look at your renewal documents for personal and commercial lines because it’s not just premiums that increase but also deductibles.


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Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: 2Dogs] #4126589
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Yep, ALFA increased the coverage on my house a little , but increased the premium A LOT! My cousin is the agent, he's looking into it. smirk


Guessing it probably bumped up because of automatic inflation increase to RCE. Flipping carrier pulled that with me on a mobile home. rofl Flipping pond scum carrier out of Birmingham who shall remain nameless. RCE increase on a mobile home?? I don’t think so. mad Flipping pond scum. rofl


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Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126600
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Originally Posted by wew3006
the vehicles are depreciated in value 2 more years.


Depreciated values on vehicles means nothing for insurance.

Parts and labor don't get cheaper to fix your vehicle the older it gets.


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Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: hunterbuck] #4126602
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by wew3006
the vehicles are depreciated in value 2 more years.


Depreciated values on vehicles means nothing for insurance.

Parts and labor don't get cheaper to fix your vehicle the older it gets.




I know it's nor big component; but replacement costs less.
Let me go replace a $15k vehicle with a $60k vehicle; and the rate will for sure go up. And; that;s what I am about to do.

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Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: eclipse829] #4126630
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Originally Posted by eclipse829
Insurance is a fracking racket. My auto insurance is north of $550 per month (no wrecks in 4+ yrs and no tickets in 15 yrs at least) Homeowners, through the roof. I also insure all of my toys (SXS, Bass Boats, Pontoons, Campers, Etc.) that's another couple hundred a month.

I won't even get in to workers comp and liability insurance.


Dang... ours is only $1300 a year. And that is with the boat and 4-wheeler. I do have an older truck and my wife's car is 10 years old. But, when we moved back to MO our rates were cut in half

Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: SwampHunter] #4126644
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Originally Posted by SwampHunter
You are right, however, that is a larger increase than most companies have taken if indeed you are claim/accident/violation free. You need to shop it. The cost to settle liability claims (see the billboards in your area for more details) has gone up drastically in recent years. The cost to repair vehicles has gone up drastically. Accident rates have gone up. Companies have lost money the last few years on auto insurance and they can't keep doing that or they will be broke. So, rates go up.

I will tell all of you this and I have sold insurance for 30 years so I know a little about it. You are better off to purchase $1000 deductibles for auto (and higher on home) and don't file little claims. Companies used to not hold "not at fault" incidents and glass claims against you but that is no longer the case. The more claims you file, the more you are going to pay. It is cheaper in the long run to pay the small stuff out of pocket and save your insurance for the big stuff.


I won't speak for all insurance companies but I will speak about progressive. I run a tire and automotive repair shop. The owner was hit while on the side of the road 2 Thanksgiving ago by a log truck with Progressive insurance. The claim is still not settled because they wanted to give 13k for a 2012 F250 with 30k in equipment on it. After we gave them receipts for everything we had to buy to outfit another truck plus the only 6 comps for trucks like what we have. They pretty much told us to sue if we wanted full compensation.

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All of my various insurances are up anywhere from 14% to 37%, one of my rider policies went down


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Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126682
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Replacement cost have gone up substantially. Repair cost have gone up significantly too.

An old friend of mine just completed his build in the island. Helluva view and never will be blocked at sunset. Last time we talked about build cost and insurance for living there.


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Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126704
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Well on a brighter note, at least in FL, most Workers Compensation premiums are down. It’s about only premiums I’ve seen go down for most classes. grin And remember brick and mortar is overrated when you can meet your agent on Webex. Secure encrypted HIPAA compliant and saves you gas. thumbup grin rofl


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Re: Inflation and Insurance [Re: wew3006] #4126706
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We were just comparing rates at work. Me and a coworker have the same exact truck, but his has 100,000 more miles. 2008 GMC 2500. My full coverage with a $250 deductible is only $280 every 6 months. His is a little over $100 a month. Well over double. Our wives both drive 4runners. It's us $360 every 6 months. His is over $200 a month. None of us have claims or tickets. He's talking to my agent this week. The last camper I had was called at $30,000. It was only around $300 a year. Or homeowners is $1,400, but it's covering a lot.

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