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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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04/27/23 09:40 AM
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BibbHunter
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Smart people will just start saving their money and paying cash for things. Next, they’ll be a “penalty” for that. They want you in debt. Ain’t no one paying cash for a new house these days unless they just have f*** you money. About 1/3 of homes sales are cash and growing each month. Source
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: BibbHunter]
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04/27/23 09:47 AM
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SouthBamaSlayer
Gary's Fluffer
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Smart people will just start saving their money and paying cash for things. Next, they’ll be a “penalty” for that. They want you in debt. Ain’t no one paying cash for a new house these days unless they just have f*** you money. About 1/3 of homes sales are cash and growing each month. SourceThe article said 28%, which I’d assume are foreclosures, flips, business ventures, etc. I’m referring to the average American buying a brand new or almost new house with cash. It ain’t happening.
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: scrape]
#3902288
04/27/23 10:00 AM
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buckhunter2
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I agree it don't look good. but when I bought my first house from a friend the closing cost was 20% of the price of the house with no real estate involved and I paid my bills. I was just starting a new family and didn't borrow much before. why should a rich person pay 1% and a new family pay 20%. anyhow life is built backwards. Nobody should be financially penalized for being financially responsible. That’s exactly what the new law does. Rewards poor choices while penalizing smart choices.
You're only as good as your worst shot-
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3902298
04/27/23 10:25 AM
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Cousneddy
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My mortgage got sold to Roundpoint, and you should see the reviews. They suck. And you have zero alternatives because a refi would be 3 basis points higher. My last mortgage was with them, no issues at all.
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: Skinny]
#3902300
04/27/23 10:29 AM
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Posts: 26,072 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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Freak of Nature
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Well now I don't know if our timing was good or bad on us buying my wife her dream home. Instead of a big ole mortgage we could've had y'all paying for it since we're poor folks. For the record, it is her dream home but I'm fond of it too.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: scrape]
#3902309
04/27/23 10:50 AM
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bill
Freak of Nature
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I agree it don't look good. but when I bought my first house from a friend the closing cost was 20% of the price of the house with no real estate involved and I paid my bills. I was just starting a new family and didn't borrow much before. why should a rich person pay 1% and a new family pay 20%. anyhow life is built backwards. 20% closing cost? As in $20,000 on a 100k loan? So, the borrower is upside down from day 1? I've bought a couple houses in the last 20 years and I know I thought 1% was too much. 20% wouldn't even make good financial sense unless you were buying way below appraisal. You sure you aren't thinking of PMI (mortgage insurance) that you're required to purchase if your not putting down 20% of the appraised value to get your LTV below 80%?
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: scrape]
#3902337
04/27/23 11:36 AM
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biglmbass
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I agree it don't look good. but when I bought my first house from a friend the closing cost was 20% of the price of the house with no real estate involved and I paid my bills. I was just starting a new family and didn't borrow much before. why should a rich person pay 1% and a new family pay 20%. anyhow life is built backwards. Don't you mean 20% to avoid PMI? One is a risky loan, the other not so much. Young folks should build some credit as they go, even when in their late teens. I know of a young Mech Engineer that I worked w' several years ago. He had a professional well paying job as did his wife w' nursing job at HSV Hospital. He'd payed his own way through college paying cash as he went. Neither of them had debt, and neither had ever borrowed money, not even for a car payment. Got tired of renting & wanted to buy a home. Coud not get a loan. Neither had any credit.
The left lane is for the the purpose of moving the flow of traffic forward regardless of the speed limit. If your impeding the flow of traffic get your ass in the right lane. It's really that simple...
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: Skinny]
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04/27/23 12:14 PM
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jacannon
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20% down payment is the standard for most loans I ever got, was 10% a long time ago. 1% closing cost.
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: biglmbass]
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04/27/23 12:49 PM
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Wapiti55
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I agree it don't look good. but when I bought my first house from a friend the closing cost was 20% of the price of the house with no real estate involved and I paid my bills. I was just starting a new family and didn't borrow much before. why should a rich person pay 1% and a new family pay 20%. anyhow life is built backwards. Don't you mean 20% to avoid PMI? One is a risky loan, the other not so much. Young folks should build some credit as they go, even when in their late teens. I know of a young Mech Engineer that I worked w' several years ago. He had a professional well paying job as did his wife w' nursing job at HSV Hospital. He'd payed his own way through college paying cash as he went. Neither of them had debt, and neither had ever borrowed money, not even for a car payment. Got tired of renting & wanted to buy a home. Coud not get a loan. Neither had any credit. There is manual underwriting for instances like this but finding the lender that can do it isn’t easy.
Last edited by Wapiti55; 04/27/23 12:50 PM.
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: Skinny]
#3902387
04/27/23 01:07 PM
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Posts: 8,997 Andalusia, Covington County, A...
TexasHuntress
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I remember when the goal was to have the best credit rating possible so you could get the best rates.
This punishing the responsible financially is such BS.
I, also, think that there should be some options for those young folks who have managed their money well and never had to borrow. A good track record on rent and utility payments, length of time at job and income should account for something. It might be a smart niche investment opportunity for someone willing to take the risk that has the capital to float a private note - kind of like owner finance, but with a third party individual instead.
If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one day, so I never have to live without you.---Winnie the Pooh
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: Wapiti55]
#3902468
04/27/23 03:31 PM
04/27/23 03:31 PM
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Posts: 4,590 limestone al
scrape
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I agree it don't look good. but when I bought my first house from a friend the closing cost was 20% of the price of the house with no real estate involved and I paid my bills. I was just starting a new family and didn't borrow much before. why should a rich person pay 1% and a new family pay 20%. anyhow life is built backwards. Don't you mean 20% to avoid PMI? One is a risky loan, the other not so much. Young folks should build some credit as they go, even when in their late teens. I know of a young Mech Engineer that I worked w' several years ago. He had a professional well paying job as did his wife w' nursing job at HSV Hospital. He'd payed his own way through college paying cash as he went. Neither of them had debt, and neither had ever borrowed money, not even for a car payment. Got tired of renting & wanted to buy a home. Coud not get a loan. Neither had any credit. There is manual underwriting for instances like this but finding the lender that can do it isn’t easy. no 20% plus pmi, and 5k down. I know I got ripped but I bought from a friend that was dying. The price of the house was 45k with over 7.5k in closing cost. I had two loans and I asked the loan company to pick the best lawyer, the lawyer turned out to be some fag who now works in ardmore by the initials b. h. I dogged everyone involved out but bought it to help my friend. because of this my next house was bought with cash and the closing cost was $350. I always just pay cash now. But yeah the system is a little backwards and they do prey on the poor. Makes me angry.
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
#3902533
04/27/23 06:02 PM
04/27/23 06:02 PM
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Posts: 12,187 Satsuma
kodiak06
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Booner
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There’s an easy solution, don’t get a federally funded loan. Just go conventional. I I haven’t read much about it, but that’s under the assumption that his proposal only affects federally funded loans. I had to cover my back there for the haters lol. It covers private loans. When I posted, I read an article that explicitly stated Government funded loans. Whether that's the true proposal happening , I don't know. Update: I just found another article stating it doesn't affect FHA loans but will convetnional lol
Last edited by kodiak06; 04/27/23 06:12 PM.
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: Skinny]
#3902548
04/27/23 06:32 PM
04/27/23 06:32 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,481 Kennedy, al
globe
Booner
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Booner
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Posts: 11,481
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I know several couples who lived in a trailer or small house, saved for years, then paid cash. Or borrowed very little to finish it.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: At least I'm not in the market
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
#3902551
04/27/23 06:36 PM
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Posts: 18,337 North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Posts: 18,337
North AL
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Smart people will just start saving their money and paying cash for things. Next, they’ll be a “penalty” for that. They want you in debt. Ain’t no one paying cash for a new house these days unless they just have f*** you money. About 1/3 of homes sales are cash and growing each month. SourceThe article said 28%, which I’d assume are foreclosures, flips, business ventures, etc. I’m referring to the average American buying a brand new or almost new house with cash. It ain’t happening. Yes it is
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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