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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #3902274
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by globe
Smart people will just start saving their money and paying cash for things. Next, they’ll be a “penalty” for that. They want you in debt.

Ain’t no one paying cash for a new house these days unless they just have f*** you money.


About 1/3 of homes sales are cash and growing each month.
Source

Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Skinny] #3902275
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We all better hope this gets fought in court and overturned, or at least the part about private loans gets taken out. If not it will be another housing bubble that is going to hurt when it pops.

Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: BibbHunter] #3902278
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Originally Posted by BibbHunter
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by globe
Smart people will just start saving their money and paying cash for things. Next, they’ll be a “penalty” for that. They want you in debt.

Ain’t no one paying cash for a new house these days unless they just have f*** you money.


About 1/3 of homes sales are cash and growing each month.
Source

The article said 28%, which I’d assume are foreclosures, flips, business ventures, etc. I’m referring to the average American buying a brand new or almost new house with cash. It ain’t happening.

Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: scrape] #3902288
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Originally Posted by scrape
I agree it don't look good. but when I bought my first house from a friend the closing cost was 20% of the price of the house with no real estate involved and I paid my bills. I was just starting a new family and didn't borrow much before. why should a rich person pay 1% and a new family pay 20%. anyhow life is built backwards.


Nobody should be financially penalized for being financially responsible. That’s exactly what the new law does.

Rewards poor choices while penalizing smart choices.


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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Lockjaw] #3902298
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
My mortgage got sold to Roundpoint, and you should see the reviews. They suck. And you have zero alternatives because a refi would be 3 basis points higher.


My last mortgage was with them, no issues at all.

Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Skinny] #3902300
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Well now I don't know if our timing was good or bad on us buying my wife her dream home. Instead of a big ole mortgage we could've had y'all paying for it since we're poor folks.
For the record, it is her dream home but I'm fond of it too.


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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: scrape] #3902309
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Originally Posted by scrape
I agree it don't look good. but when I bought my first house from a friend the closing cost was 20% of the price of the house with no real estate involved and I paid my bills. I was just starting a new family and didn't borrow much before. why should a rich person pay 1% and a new family pay 20%. anyhow life is built backwards.



20% closing cost? As in $20,000 on a 100k loan? So, the borrower is upside down from day 1? I've bought a couple houses in the last 20 years and I know I thought 1% was too much. 20% wouldn't even make good financial sense unless you were buying way below appraisal. You sure you aren't thinking of PMI (mortgage insurance) that you're required to purchase if your not putting down 20% of the appraised value to get your LTV below 80%?


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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Cousneddy] #3902320
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Originally Posted by Cousneddy
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
My mortgage got sold to Roundpoint, and you should see the reviews. They suck. And you have zero alternatives because a refi would be 3 basis points higher.


My last mortgage was with them, no issues at all.


https://wallethub.com/profile/roundpoint-mortgage-servicing-corporation-13796290i

Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: scrape] #3902337
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Originally Posted by scrape
I agree it don't look good. but when I bought my first house from a friend the closing cost was 20% of the price of the house with no real estate involved and I paid my bills. I was just starting a new family and didn't borrow much before. why should a rich person pay 1% and a new family pay 20%. anyhow life is built backwards.


Don't you mean 20% to avoid PMI?

One is a risky loan, the other not so much. Young folks should build some credit as they go, even when in their late teens.

I know of a young Mech Engineer that I worked w' several years ago. He had a professional well paying job as did his wife w' nursing job at HSV Hospital. He'd payed his own way through college paying cash as he went. Neither of them had debt, and neither had ever borrowed money, not even for a car payment. Got tired of renting & wanted to buy a home. Coud not get a loan. Neither had any credit.





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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Skinny] #3902362
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20% down payment is the standard for most loans I ever got, was 10% a long time ago. 1% closing cost.


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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Skinny] #3902369
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I think the majority are living paycheck to paycheck. Zero savtdor anything. Large down payment ain't happening out side what they get in tax refund.

Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: biglmbass] #3902375
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Originally Posted by biglmbass
Originally Posted by scrape
I agree it don't look good. but when I bought my first house from a friend the closing cost was 20% of the price of the house with no real estate involved and I paid my bills. I was just starting a new family and didn't borrow much before. why should a rich person pay 1% and a new family pay 20%. anyhow life is built backwards.


Don't you mean 20% to avoid PMI?

One is a risky loan, the other not so much. Young folks should build some credit as they go, even when in their late teens.

I know of a young Mech Engineer that I worked w' several years ago. He had a professional well paying job as did his wife w' nursing job at HSV Hospital. He'd payed his own way through college paying cash as he went. Neither of them had debt, and neither had ever borrowed money, not even for a car payment. Got tired of renting & wanted to buy a home. Coud not get a loan. Neither had any credit.




There is manual underwriting for instances like this but finding the lender that can do it isn’t easy.

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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Skinny] #3902387
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I remember when the goal was to have the best credit rating possible so you could get the best rates.

This punishing the responsible financially is such BS.

I, also, think that there should be some options for those young folks who have managed their money well and never had to borrow. A good track record on rent and utility payments, length of time at job and income should account for something. It might be a smart niche investment opportunity for someone willing to take the risk that has the capital to float a private note - kind of like owner finance, but with a third party individual instead.


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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Wapiti55] #3902468
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Originally Posted by Wapiti55
Originally Posted by biglmbass
Originally Posted by scrape
I agree it don't look good. but when I bought my first house from a friend the closing cost was 20% of the price of the house with no real estate involved and I paid my bills. I was just starting a new family and didn't borrow much before. why should a rich person pay 1% and a new family pay 20%. anyhow life is built backwards.


Don't you mean 20% to avoid PMI?

One is a risky loan, the other not so much. Young folks should build some credit as they go, even when in their late teens.

I know of a young Mech Engineer that I worked w' several years ago. He had a professional well paying job as did his wife w' nursing job at HSV Hospital. He'd payed his own way through college paying cash as he went. Neither of them had debt, and neither had ever borrowed money, not even for a car payment. Got tired of renting & wanted to buy a home. Coud not get a loan. Neither had any credit.




There is manual underwriting for instances like this but finding the lender that can do it isn’t easy.
no 20% plus pmi, and 5k down. I know I got ripped but I bought from a friend that was dying. The price of the house was 45k with over 7.5k in closing cost. I had two loans and I asked the loan company to pick the best lawyer, the lawyer turned out to be some fag who now works in ardmore by the initials b. h. I dogged everyone involved out but bought it to help my friend. because of this my next house was bought with cash and the closing cost was $350. I always just pay cash now. But yeah the system is a little backwards and they do prey on the poor. Makes me angry.

Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #3902533
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by kodiak06
There’s an easy solution, don’t get a federally funded loan. Just go conventional. I I haven’t read much about it, but that’s under the assumption that his proposal only affects federally funded loans. I had to cover my back there for the haters lol.


It covers private loans.


When I posted, I read an article that explicitly stated Government funded loans. Whether that's the true proposal happening , I don't know.

Update: I just found another article stating it doesn't affect FHA loans but will convetnional lol

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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Skinny] #3902535
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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Skinny] #3902548
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I know several couples who lived in a trailer or small house, saved for years, then paid cash. Or borrowed very little to finish it.


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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #3902551
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by BibbHunter
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by globe
Smart people will just start saving their money and paying cash for things. Next, they’ll be a “penalty” for that. They want you in debt.

Ain’t no one paying cash for a new house these days unless they just have f*** you money.


About 1/3 of homes sales are cash and growing each month.
Source

The article said 28%, which I’d assume are foreclosures, flips, business ventures, etc. I’m referring to the average American buying a brand new or almost new house with cash. It ain’t happening.

Yes it is


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Re: At least I'm not in the market [Re: Lockjaw] #3902610
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Originally Posted by Cousneddy
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
My mortgage got sold to Roundpoint, and you should see the reviews. They suck. And you have zero alternatives because a refi would be 3 basis points higher.


My last mortgage was with them, no issues at all.


https://wallethub.com/profile/roundpoint-mortgage-servicing-corporation-13796290i


That's some interesting reviews! We had the loan with them for around 6 years and no problems, of course we never missed a payment or really needed customer service. Paying the loan off was a simple process, they sent the paperwork and I wired the funds. In about a week we got the loan closure documents and notice that they had sent them to the courthouse for deed release.

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