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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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04/08/22 06:27 AM
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I would have thought one of them would have completely destroyed a Japanese mini-truck, but it really didn't look like it did that much damage. I wasn't all that impressed with the Switchblade. Maybe more for a machine gun emplacement? Plus it was clear that a lot of those videos were promotional computer animations. It also appeared that the munitions exploded slightly before impact on some of the targets, maybe they have proximity fuses?
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
[Re: Irishguy]
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04/08/22 08:45 AM
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I would have thought one of them would have completely destroyed a Japanese mini-truck, but it really didn't look like it did that much damage. I wasn't all that impressed with the Switchblade. Maybe more for a machine gun emplacement? Plus it was clear that a lot of those videos were promotional computer animations. It also appeared that the munitions exploded slightly before impact on some of the targets, maybe they have proximity fuses? they have the ability to explode like a clamor to decrease collateral damage, no need to take out a whole building when you only need to take out everyone in a room. The benefit is increased line of sight. Which improves accuracy and efficiency with mortars and artillery. I think the range and run time is more than what is represented. I imagine they would be perfect for CUAS (counter-drone) I think the big one has the same warhead as a Javalin. And some Friday artillery footage from UA https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1512413971193778181heres another switchblade video that better explains its capabilities [video:youtube] https://youtu.be/kqBy0GZu0vU[/video]
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
[Re: Irishguy]
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04/08/22 01:20 PM
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I would have thought one of them would have completely destroyed a Japanese mini-truck, but it really didn't look like it did that much damage. I wasn't all that impressed with the Switchblade. Maybe more for a machine gun emplacement? Plus it was clear that a lot of those videos were promotional computer animations. It also appeared that the munitions exploded slightly before impact on some of the targets, maybe they have proximity fuses? They make two sizes of those Switchblade drones, the 300 and the 600. The smaller one would be for hitting people or unprotected weapons like mortars or machine guns. The 600 is for vehicles. The benefit of the 600 size would be cost. A Javelin missle costs over 100,000 dollars apiece. You want to save those expensive sob's for high priority targets like a tank. These Switchblade 600 drones cost way less and would be perfect for attacking trucks and other more lightly armored vehicles.
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
[Re: Todd1700]
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04/08/22 05:03 PM
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I would have thought one of them would have completely destroyed a Japanese mini-truck, but it really didn't look like it did that much damage. I wasn't all that impressed with the Switchblade. Maybe more for a machine gun emplacement? Plus it was clear that a lot of those videos were promotional computer animations. It also appeared that the munitions exploded slightly before impact on some of the targets, maybe they have proximity fuses? They make two sizes of those Switchblade drones, the 300 and the 600. The smaller one would be for hitting people or unprotected weapons like mortars or machine guns. The 600 is for vehicles. The benefit of the 600 size would be cost. A Javelin missle costs over 100,000 dollars apiece. You want to save those expensive sob's for high priority targets like a tank. These Switchblade 600 drones cost way less and would be perfect for attacking trucks and other more lightly armored vehicles. Yeah... I realize they have two different sizes. I've read all about them. I guess I was thinking that the Switchblade 600 was going to be more like the Javelin in it's destructive capability. Maybe the video only showed the Switchblade 300?
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
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04/14/22 11:26 AM
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Looks like after sifting through the propaganda on both sides that the Ukrainians have done it again and seriously damaged Russia's Flagship Missile Cruiser. Sources are saying that the shore to ship missiles launched by Ukraine have detonated the ammunition stores on board the ship and done irreparable damage. If this is true, it would be another big win for UA. Link to Story...The very fact that the Russians are admitting damage either means that: A. The ship as been hit by Ukrainian shore to ship missiles. B. Once again the Russian military is inept and allowed their ship to catch on fire so badly that the entire crew had to abandon ship. The crew doesn't abandon ship unless it is really really bad. Like sinking the ship bad.
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
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04/14/22 11:47 AM
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Bad look for the ruskies, but doesn't change the fact that they're fixing to march westward from the dombas region. Men and materials don't mean anything to putin.
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
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04/14/22 11:59 AM
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Looks like after sifting through the propaganda on both sides that the Ukrainians have done it again and seriously damaged Russia's Flagship Missile Cruiser. Sources are saying that the shore to ship missiles launched by Ukraine have detonated the ammunition stores on board the ship and done irreparable damage. If this is true, it would be another big win for UA. Link to Story...The very fact that the Russians are admitting damage either means that: A. The ship as been hit by Ukrainian shore to ship missiles. B. Once again the Russian military is inept and allowed their ship to catch on fire so badly that the entire crew had to abandon ship. The crew doesn't abandon ship unless it is really really bad. Like sinking the ship bad. The Russians are saying it was an accidental fire on the ship. Nothing to see here move along. It seems pretty obvious that Baghdad Bob and Peppermint Patty trained at the Russian Ministry School of Misinformation.
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
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04/14/22 12:12 PM
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Looks like after sifting through the propaganda on both sides that the Ukrainians have done it again and seriously damaged Russia's Flagship Missile Cruiser. Sources are saying that the shore to ship missiles launched by Ukraine have detonated the ammunition stores on board the ship and done irreparable damage. If this is true, it would be another big win for UA. Link to Story...The very fact that the Russians are admitting damage either means that: A. The ship as been hit by Ukrainian shore to ship missiles. B. Once again the Russian military is inept and allowed their ship to catch on fire so badly that the entire crew had to abandon ship. The crew doesn't abandon ship unless it is really really bad. Like sinking the ship bad. The Russians are saying it was an accidental fire on the ship. Nothing to see here move along. It seems pretty obvious that Baghdad Bob and Peppermint Patty trained at the Russian Ministry School of Misinformation. Like I have said many other times... Everybody lies, but Russia lies all the time about everything.
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
[Re: Irishguy]
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04/14/22 04:36 PM
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Looks like after sifting through the propaganda on both sides that the Ukrainians have done it again and seriously damaged Russia's Flagship Missile Cruiser. Sources are saying that the shore to ship missiles launched by Ukraine have detonated the ammunition stores on board the ship and done irreparable damage. If this is true, it would be another big win for UA. Link to Story...The very fact that the Russians are admitting damage either means that: A. The ship as been hit by Ukrainian shore to ship missiles. B. Once again the Russian military is inept and allowed their ship to catch on fire so badly that the entire crew had to abandon ship. The crew doesn't abandon ship unless it is really really bad. Like sinking the ship bad. The Russians are saying it was an accidental fire on the ship. Nothing to see here move along. It seems pretty obvious that Baghdad Bob and Peppermint Patty trained at the Russian Ministry School of Misinformation. Like I have said many other times... Everybody lies, but Russia lies all the time about everything. The BBC is reporting that it has sunk while being towed because of "stormy seas". LOL https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61114843
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
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04/14/22 04:41 PM
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Russia still has submarines with nukes moving around out there. Knocking out one ship is a good success for Ukraine but it is only a minor dent for Russia.
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
[Re: Skinny]
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04/14/22 06:07 PM
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Russia still has submarines with nukes moving around out there. Knocking out one ship is a good success for Ukraine but it is only a minor dent for Russia. True... But when your whole country is being devastated by a bunch of Orcs, a win is a win. I believe it is in everyone's best interest to make this war in Ukraine as painful for Russia as possible and make them think twice before they invade a country like Poland, Lithuania, Estonia or Latvia, who are all in NATO.
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
[Re: sumpter_al]
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04/14/22 06:10 PM
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Irishguy
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Looks like after sifting through the propaganda on both sides that the Ukrainians have done it again and seriously damaged Russia's Flagship Missile Cruiser. Sources are saying that the shore to ship missiles launched by Ukraine have detonated the ammunition stores on board the ship and done irreparable damage. If this is true, it would be another big win for UA. Link to Story...The very fact that the Russians are admitting damage either means that: A. The ship as been hit by Ukrainian shore to ship missiles. B. Once again the Russian military is inept and allowed their ship to catch on fire so badly that the entire crew had to abandon ship. The crew doesn't abandon ship unless it is really really bad. Like sinking the ship bad. The Russians are saying it was an accidental fire on the ship. Nothing to see here move along. It seems pretty obvious that Baghdad Bob and Peppermint Patty trained at the Russian Ministry School of Misinformation. Like I have said many other times... Everybody lies, but Russia lies all the time about everything. The BBC is reporting that it has sunk while being towed because of "stormy seas". LOL https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61114843The very fact that Russia is now admitting that the ship has actually sunk is pretty much an admission.
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
[Re: Irishguy]
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04/14/22 06:28 PM
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This is on my mind Does Russia have a volunteer military or do they draft or is military service mandatory ? If they keep losing men and equipment they’re gonna need a lot of both if they continue
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
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04/14/22 06:31 PM
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This is on my mind Does Russia have a volunteer military or do they draft or is military service mandatory ? If they keep losing men and equipment they’re gonna need a lot of both if they continue They use conscripts but also have volunteers. Drafted fighters do not do as well as volunteers.
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
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04/14/22 06:35 PM
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This is on my mind Does Russia have a volunteer military or do they draft or is military service mandatory ? If they keep losing men and equipment they’re gonna need a lot of both if they continue They use conscripts but also have volunteers. Drafted fighters do not do as well as volunteers. Or those fighting for their lives and country as Russia is painfully finding out. I agree with Irish, this needs to be made so painful to Russia that they never think about invading another country. Make it so that they have to spend all their money eating and not building an army.
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon...
[Re: Skinny]
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04/14/22 07:01 PM
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Irishguy
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This is on my mind Does Russia have a volunteer military or do they draft or is military service mandatory ? If they keep losing men and equipment they’re gonna need a lot of both if they continue They use conscripts but also have volunteers. Drafted fighters do not do as well as volunteers. Like Skinny says... They have a volunteer military (Some of the volunteering might be forced, but we don't know.) The Conscripts serve for 1 year, which seems like a really short time to actually learn anything about fighting or serving in a support role.
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