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investment real estate question #3133843
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I’m loosely eyeballing a property with multiple rental opportunities on it. I won’t get into details of the property right now, but.. The realtor told me that the property “can’t sell for less than what the county has it appraised for because Medicaid won’t allow it”

Is this some kind of elder law? or something dealing with a seller that may be in a nursing home?


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Section 8 housing zoning laws. Run away.


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Originally Posted by Skinny
Section 8 housing zoning laws. Run away.



I’m obviously not familiar with section 8 zoning laws, but this sounded different than some type of section 8 zoning laws. Does that apply to apartments or houses as well? FWIW, this is 3 houses on 1 property.

I’ll research It and then speak with the realtor if I gain more interest.


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It could be that the owners are in a nursing home on Medicaid. If so they have to “try” to sell it for the tax assessed value. The realtor can try and get approval from Medicaid for a lower price, but it must be justified(ie needs new roof,ac,or the like). I am going through this now with my in-laws house, it is not a quick process.

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My Social Worker wife says it's not a law, however it's a state statute that assets cannot be disposed of for less than fair market value, because the asset value needs to be used for care. It essentially is there for Medicaid so they can recover their expenses for care, whether the owner is in a nursing home or after death.

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Originally Posted by jbatey1
I’m loosely eyeballing a property with multiple rental opportunities on it. I won’t get into details of the property right now, but.. The realtor told me that the property “can’t sell for less than what the county has it appraised for because Medicaid won’t allow it”

Is this some kind of elder law? or something dealing with a seller that may be in a nursing home?


Not a true statement at all. They might need some justification on why it's being sold for less than the tax appraisal value but they'll sell it for less if you can provide that. More than likely it's a Medicaid-ordered sale where an elderly person is having to sell ALL of their assets to pay for nursing home or assisted living care. You can work your entire life and pay off your mortgage but the minute you need government-assisted elder care you'll likely have to sell everything you've worked for over the years. I have helped a bunch of families with these sales and all you have to do is prepare an addendum or memorandum stating why it's being sold for the price it's selling for. Super simple, let me know if I can help in any way...


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Phil Army is spot on correct, if that is your situation.


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Originally Posted by Phil_Army
Originally Posted by jbatey1
I’m loosely eyeballing a property with multiple rental opportunities on it. I won’t get into details of the property right now, but.. The realtor told me that the property “can’t sell for less than what the county has it appraised for because Medicaid won’t allow it”

Is this some kind of elder law? or something dealing with a seller that may be in a nursing home?


Not a true statement at all. They might need some justification on why it's being sold for less than the tax appraisal value but they'll sell it for less if you can provide that. More than likely it's a Medicaid-ordered sale where an elderly person is having to sell ALL of their assets to pay for nursing home or assisted living care. You can work your entire life and pay off your mortgage but the minute you need government-assisted elder care you'll likely have to sell everything you've worked for over the years. I have helped a bunch of families with these sales and all you have to do is prepare an addendum or memorandum stating why it's being sold for the price it's selling for. Super simple, let me know if I can help in any way...



That’s exactly what sounds to be going on with this situation. A lady (I’m assuming to be The owner of the property) is in a nursing home. The house she was living in has set empty for the last 9 months, another house is empty and the third house currently has tenants. If I decide to go further, I’m definitely reaching out to you. Thanks.


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Originally Posted by Rutabaga
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