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Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line #205288
10/22/11 05:51 PM
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I want your feedback. I have to move a double ladder i needed to reposition on our property. Much of our property is thinned, planted pines. None of the trees in that area are big enough to support this stand. Our boundary line has mature oaks that will support the stand.

What do you think about putting the stand on a mature oak on the line in a remote area that our neighbor doesn't hunt, with the only view facing our property?


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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205314
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If the pine trees have been thinned they are big enough to support a ladder stand.

I would not put a stand on the line tree unless you talk to your neighbor first.

Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205328
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Around here you can put it right in the fire lane or if there's nothing showing the sepertion of the property as long as you're not looking onto that persons land. I talked to the Game Warden last year on this mmatter and that is what he told me.

Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205342
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Legally you can put it on the line tree depending how the line is painted.

Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205371
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put it on a tree that the paint is facing your neighbors land and you should be ok.


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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205375
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I see threads about this same situation on here and other forums a lot. Usually it is a land owner or lease holder upset because the neighbor has done this exact thing. If I we're you, I would discuss it with your neighbor and explain to him why you want to do this. Give your neighbor the respect and courtesy you would want/expect.

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Zookie;

That's exactly what I'd like to do but don't know who the neighbors are. I hunted that area of our proprerty a LOT last season and rarely heard a shot in that vicinity. Never from that specific area. I thought about leaving a note with my name and number on it to explain???


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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205387
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Not a bad idea....communication is key!

Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205392
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You could find the landowner's name and info at the Lee County Courthouse.


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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205467
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As long as you're facing your land I don't see a problem with it. Nor do I see a reason to ask permission to hunt your own land. That is really what you would be doing. The only time you see threads on here that have folks upset is when someone's stand is facing someone else's property. If the ladder stand is facing your side it's obvious you're hunting your own property. Anyone that would get upset about that is just looking for a reason to do so.


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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: Rebelman] #205514
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Originally Posted By: Rebelman
If the pine trees have been thinned they are big enough to support a ladder stand.

I would not put a stand on the line tree unless you talk to your neighbor first.


yep but i would not ask if i could . i would assure him that i would not be shooting across propriety lines .

Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: Clem] #205540
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This will take you to the Lee County GIS site - you can zoom in and get the property owners info ( platt overlay on sat image). Might have to download a viewer but is a great tool for finding landowner info. http://www.leecountymaps.com/ You can get this for any county in the state by just googling "county name" GIS.

Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205564
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Perfectly legal to do so, but I'd use a heavy chain and a heavy lock. Unfortunately, I know what tends to happen when you place a stand too close to a property line. CD.

Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: Rebelman] #205578
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Unfortunately the diameter of our trees aren't wide enough to hold a buddy stand. Due to the extra weight load of a buddy stand (500 lbs vs 300 lbs for a single), they design the tree brace much wider in order to use it on a larger tree. The angle of the brace on the buddy ony allows a few teeth to grab the narrow pine, allowing the stand to pivot back and forth, even when ratcheted in. Unsafe.


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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: Frankie] #205603
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Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: Rebelman
If the pine trees have been thinned they are big enough to support a ladder stand.

I would not put a stand on the line tree unless you talk to your neighbor first.


yep but i would not ask if i could . i would assure him that i would not be shooting across propriety lines .


That is the only way I would put it up on the line too. Knowing who hunts on our adjoining piece of property, when I found one on our line, I nailed a posted sign to the ladder. He was legal in stand placement, but an unethical hunter. The stand was gone a week later. Not knowing who's stand or land it was I would have gone looking for them so we could have a good neighbor talk.


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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205641
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Our boundary line has mature oaks that will support the stand.

What do you think about putting the stand on a mature oak on the line in a remote area that our neighbor doesn't hunt, with the only view facing our property?


Doing anything "on the line" is an invitation for trouble. If the trees were left during thinning, it's probably because they were "on the line" and it was not legal to cut them.

Is the boundary line clearly marked so you know exactly where it is?

Are the trees you are talking about marked as being on the property line?

If there is room for doubt, I'd rule it out and find another way to hunt near the line.

How about one of those pop-up blinds, a tripod or something else you could hunt from on your own land that would not cause trouble?



Note: You can read an Alabama Appeals Court opinion that involves a "tree on the property line" case at the following link:
Court: Don't mess with trees on a property line

Quote:
... "`A landowner who cuts or destroys a tree growing on the boundary line without the consent of the adjoining owner is liable in trespass to the latter for such injury for although, ordinarily, trespass will not lie by one tenant in common against his cotenant, yet when one tenant in common destroys the subject of the tenancy, trespass will lie at the suit of the injured party.'"

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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: rmb] #205727
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RMB. Thanks for the link.


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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: 49er] #205733
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Is the boundary line clearly marked so you know exactly where it is? Yes. The trees on the line are marked with distinctive paint marking every 20 yards. This is a tree that's on the line but is not marked.


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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #205988
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It is perfectly legal and ethical. No one has the right to keep you from hunting every square foot of your property, unless some kind of Rights-of-way are traversing the land. I would certainly take the time to give my neighbor a courtesy call, to let him in on the decision. Make it clear that it's only a courtesy call, you're not asking for permission to hunt your land.


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Re: Opinion on putting a ladder stand on the boundary line [Re: AU .30-06] #206224
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Is this land that you own or lease? Most of the paper companies have a clause in the lease that limits how close you can put a stand to the property line. I went to an IP meeting several years ago and the speaker said this was this biggest problem the company had with their hunters. He said that clubs that put stands on the line would lose their lease. Of course, IP sold their land, but the other companies have the same problems.

But I wouldn't put a stand right on the line, even if it were land that I owned. There's no way I could be sure that one of my hunters wouldn't shoot a deer that was across the line. If I want to hunt an area close to the property line, I put the stand in a place so that we can only see to the line and not beyond it.

But if were the landowner on the other side of you, I wouldn't object to a stand placed so that it was facing your land. I have some on our lines now that are just like this, and have never said a word about it. If the stand is facing our land, I'll go talk to somebody about it.

My rule on such questions is that if I have to wonder about it, don't do it. If you go ahead and do it anyway, then you'll always be wondering if something is about to go wrong. I get plenty of that in everyday life. When I go hunting, I want to relax and not worry about things. If I had to ask on aldeer if something was ok, I'd figure I don't need to do it.


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