</a JR Holmes Oil Company </a Shark Guard Southeast Woods and Whitetail Mayer Insurance Services LLC
Aldeer Classifieds
Marlin Trapper SS 45-70
by StateLine. 05/04/25 10:12 PM
John Deere 8300 12' Seed Drill Project FS
by trailertrash. 05/04/25 05:10 PM
460 S&W NEW BRASS & 50 NEW 454 Casull
by murf205. 05/04/25 08:34 AM
ISO utility trailer
by ford150man. 05/03/25 07:01 PM
2003 suburban
by Shaneomac2. 05/03/25 12:31 PM
Serious Deer Talk
Tooth Aging
by Tree Dweller. 05/01/25 06:23 AM
Anyone have data on archery kills per year
by CNC. 04/30/25 09:23 AM
Shooting house wall/floor metal flashing
by M48scout. 04/29/25 02:33 PM
Taxidermy Story
by mathews prostaff. 04/24/25 11:32 AM
Anyone here currently doing a timber co lease?
by Lockjaw. 04/22/25 03:30 PM
May
S M T W T F S
1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31
Land, Leases, Hunting Clubs
NW Missouri
by Coosa buck. 05/04/25 08:35 PM
Possible 2 openings NW Missouri
by Coosa buck. 05/04/25 07:42 AM
Contact info for c&b sportsman mt olive
by Catfish28. 05/03/25 11:58 AM
Potential Spot In Bullock Cty
by Squeaky. 05/01/25 04:36 PM
Looking for hunting club in mobile or Baldwin cty
by Hold-Em-Hook. 05/01/25 12:27 PM
Who's Online Now
17 registered members (Bcbama260, russellb, Moss, imadeerhntr, Holcomb, Josh3, Etyson, !shiloh!, sj22, Bushmaster, BD, jaredhunts, PapaD, eclipse829, StateLine, Jmkiper, 1 invisible), 836 guests, and 0 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 5 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: bholmes] #2143109
06/20/17 03:30 AM
06/20/17 03:30 AM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 25,428
Guntersville, AL
IDOT Offline
I am Cornholio
IDOT  Offline
I am Cornholio
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 25,428
Guntersville, AL


Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: Booger] #2143112
06/20/17 03:32 AM
06/20/17 03:32 AM
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9,541
Montgomery, AL
jbc Offline
14 point
jbc  Offline
14 point
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9,541
Montgomery, AL
i've got a 21 month old.

she got shots at 2, 4, 6, 12, 15, 18 months. gets next at 24 months.

not sure what all doses or shots are involved.

we just trust our doctor to give her what is best for her health.

#science

Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: IDOT] #2143120
06/20/17 03:38 AM
06/20/17 03:38 AM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,255
AL
H
hunterbuck Offline
Booner
hunterbuck  Offline
Booner
H
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,255
AL


The only ones of those that are REQUIRED are the 4 I mentioned.

DTaP requires 5 shots from birth to 18 years

Polio requires 4 shots from birth to 18 years

MMR requires 2 doses from birth to 18 years

Chickenpox requires 2 doses from birth to 18 years

That's 13 required shots over the course of 18 years.

It's up to you to decide if you want to do all the others.


"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"

Have you tried Google?
Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: hunterbuck] #2143135
06/20/17 03:51 AM
06/20/17 03:51 AM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 644
Madison County
B
bholmes Offline
4 point
bholmes  Offline
4 point
B
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 644
Madison County
Originally Posted by hunterbuck


The only ones of those that are REQUIRED are the 4 I mentioned.

DTaP requires 5 shots from birth to 18 years

Polio requires 4 shots from birth to 18 years

MMR requires 2 doses from birth to 18 years

Chickenpox requires 2 doses from birth to 18 years

That's 13 required shots over the course of 18 years.

It's up to you to decide if you want to do all the others.


Required by the school?

Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: Booger] #2143141
06/20/17 03:53 AM
06/20/17 03:53 AM
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9,541
Montgomery, AL
jbc Offline
14 point
jbc  Offline
14 point
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9,541
Montgomery, AL

Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: bholmes] #2143144
06/20/17 03:56 AM
06/20/17 03:56 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 37,863
Boxes Cove
2Dogs Offline
Freak of Nature
2Dogs  Offline
Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 37,863
Boxes Cove
My Mrs. is the clinic supervisor for the Jackson Co. Health Dept. ( ADPH). I'll ask her later how many shots are required to start public school. Matter of fact , I'll get her to read this thread, I'm sure it'll be entertaining to her.



"Why do you ask"?

Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: bholmes] #2143155
06/20/17 04:02 AM
06/20/17 04:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,255
AL
H
hunterbuck Offline
Booner
hunterbuck  Offline
Booner
H
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,255
AL
Originally Posted by bholmes
Originally Posted by hunterbuck


The only ones of those that are REQUIRED are the 4 I mentioned.

DTaP requires 5 shots from birth to 18 years

Polio requires 4 shots from birth to 18 years

MMR requires 2 doses from birth to 18 years

Chickenpox requires 2 doses from birth to 18 years

That's 13 required shots over the course of 18 years.

It's up to you to decide if you want to do all the others.


Required by the school?


The state requires these for kids to enter public schools.


"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"

Have you tried Google?
Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: Booger] #2143250
06/20/17 05:10 AM
06/20/17 05:10 AM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 800
Chelsea
J
Jeff Offline
6 point
Jeff  Offline
6 point
J
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 800
Chelsea
Have you ever looked at the vaccination schedule today compared to that of 1980? Dr's are giving a lot more vaccines today than before. One thought is the multi Vival containers have added preservatives that extend shelve life for docs. These preservatives are what folks are linking to autism. There is a growing problem or concern with the number of kids with ADD, ADHD, autism, etc. Of course big pharma will never admit that the stuff in the vaccinations are at fault. Tough subject for sure. Thankful for modern medicine but I feel that the government shouldn't dictate what I do. If the doctors would offer single vaccines, lots of folks who are on the fence would step up.

Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: Booger] #2143251
06/20/17 05:11 AM
06/20/17 05:11 AM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 800
Chelsea
J
Jeff Offline
6 point
Jeff  Offline
6 point
J
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 800
Chelsea
Sorry little late at posting but some of the same stuff was just mentioned

Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: Booger] #2143282
06/20/17 05:44 AM
06/20/17 05:44 AM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 185
Jacksonville
J
JSOG47 Offline
3 point
JSOG47  Offline
3 point
J
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 185
Jacksonville
For those wondering why they shouldn't be allowed to chose not to vaccinate their children on a whim because freedom, the reason is herd immunization. If a large enough percentage of the population is immunized the disease goes away almost entirely. Those who cannot be immunized because of actual medical conditions are still protected because nearly everyone else they encounter is immunized.

However, if you lower the immunized percentage of the population, lets say due to fraudulent studies and maybe jenny mccarthy being an absolute loon, herd immunization doesn't exist anymore. The innocent children who could not be immunized suffer and the diseases which were nearly eradicated come roaring back. Incidentally, each iteration of the disease gives it an opportunity to mutate. No telling when it will mutate into something stronger.

People always want something to blame when something bad happens. I understand that. People seem to rely on anecdotal evidence (my friend said...) more than established, reproducible science. People also want to feel smarter than everyone else, which is why conspiracy theories get picked up and run with. If you can string together two or three coincidences and refuse to understand the difference between causation and correlation you too can feel smarter than all of medical science.

Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: Booger] #2143308
06/20/17 06:07 AM
06/20/17 06:07 AM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 6,363
On the X
T
TickaTicka Offline
12 point
TickaTicka  Offline
12 point
T
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 6,363
On the X
This is the definition of a 1st world problem.

The aforementioned northern africans must look at us with such envy. They have children dying of communicable infectious diseases every day, and we let pretty people with the equivalent of 9th grade education determine our public health policy.

We are truly insane.


Public Land Owner
Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: jbc] #2143370
06/20/17 07:25 AM
06/20/17 07:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 24,537
Clarksville, TN /Greenville, ...
bill Offline
Freak of Nature
bill  Offline
Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 24,537
Clarksville, TN /Greenville, ...
Originally Posted by jbc
.

we just trust our doctor to give her what is best for her .

#science


Global warming
#science

Vaccines contain formaldehyde, aluminum and mercury at much higher levels than recommended as safe in drinking water.
#science

The Tuskegee Study
#science

I'm not saying don't vaccinate but if you think everything they are giving your child is driven by good science instead of partially being influenced by money then I'd bet you're probably wrong. Just like I bet much of what the anti vaccine crowd believes is wrong. Nothing wrong with profit, because without it we wouldn't have many life saving drugs. Though sometimes profit gets put before people. There are ambulance chasers making fortunes off of drug companies that rushed bad science onto the market.


" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
Bama_Earl
Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: hunterbuck] #2143386
06/20/17 07:35 AM
06/20/17 07:35 AM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,967
Al
M
metalmessiah Offline
12 point
metalmessiah  Offline
12 point
M
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,967
Al
Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by metalmessiah

kids these days get like 60 something doses by the time they start school.


You have any documentation for that? My son is 11, and isn't remotely near that number.

I think the state of Alabama requires 4 vaccinations for kids to start school....DTaP, Polio, Chickenpox, and MMR. Yes, some are required to be given in "courses", but nowhere near what you're suggesting.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


youre misunderstanding what I'm saying first off. I didnt say they get 60 shots. some of those you listed have 3 or 4 different doses in each shot. I guarantee you they didnt let your kid start with only 4 shots either. no school system I have ever seen anyway. they get a hepatitis b shot the first week of their life. I'd love to know whats causing such a great risk of hep b to newborns.


Go with the flow and you will end up down the drain!
Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: metalmessiah] #2143390
06/20/17 07:37 AM
06/20/17 07:37 AM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 644
Madison County
B
bholmes Offline
4 point
bholmes  Offline
4 point
B
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 644
Madison County
Originally Posted by metalmessiah
Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by metalmessiah

kids these days get like 60 something doses by the time they start school.


You have any documentation for that? My son is 11, and isn't remotely near that number.

I think the state of Alabama requires 4 vaccinations for kids to start school....DTaP, Polio, Chickenpox, and MMR. Yes, some are required to be given in "courses", but nowhere near what you're suggesting.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


youre misunderstanding what I'm saying first off. I didnt say they get 60 shots. some of those you listed have 3 or 4 different doses in each shot. I guarantee you they didnt let your kid start with only 4 shots either. no school system I have ever seen anyway. they get a hepatitis b shot the first week of their life. I'd love to know whats causing such a great risk of hep b to newborns.


The document that jbc linked, proved that much more than 4 shots are required.

Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: Booger] #2143396
06/20/17 07:46 AM
06/20/17 07:46 AM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,967
Al
M
metalmessiah Offline
12 point
metalmessiah  Offline
12 point
M
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,967
Al
I would suggest everyone google the transcripts from the simpsonwood cdc conference before they argue this any further. the admissions made are eye opening to say the least, and straight from the horses mouth. vaccination is great when done properly. its when greedy bastards are doing it for profit that it gets sketchy. bottom line is youre a fool to just blindly accept the crap they force on you. as bill pointed out about the safe mercury levels, a little common sense goes a long way.


Go with the flow and you will end up down the drain!
Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: metalmessiah] #2143397
06/20/17 07:47 AM
06/20/17 07:47 AM
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9,541
Montgomery, AL
jbc Offline
14 point
jbc  Offline
14 point
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9,541
Montgomery, AL
Originally Posted by metalmessiah
I would suggest everyone google the transcripts from the simpsonwood cdc conference before they argue this any further. the admissions made are eye opening to say the least, and straight from the horses mouth. vaccination is great when done properly. its when greedy bastards are doing it for profit that it gets sketchy. bottom line is youre a fool to just blindly accept the crap they force on you. as bill pointed out about the safe mercury levels, a little common sense goes a long way.


our pediatrician is a family friend who is giving his grandchildren the same treatment. I feel very comfortable with it.

Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: Booger] #2143407
06/20/17 08:01 AM
06/20/17 08:01 AM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 6,363
On the X
T
TickaTicka Offline
12 point
TickaTicka  Offline
12 point
T
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 6,363
On the X
Such hyperbole. Very few facts. This argument will never end.


Public Land Owner
Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: jbc] #2143413
06/20/17 08:11 AM
06/20/17 08:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 24,537
Clarksville, TN /Greenville, ...
bill Offline
Freak of Nature
bill  Offline
Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 24,537
Clarksville, TN /Greenville, ...

Originally Posted by jbc
Originally Posted by metalmessiah
I would suggest everyone google the transcripts from the simpsonwood cdc conference before they argue this any further. the admissions made are eye opening to say the least, and straight from the horses mouth. vaccination is great when done properly. its when greedy bastards are doing it for profit that it gets sketchy. bottom line is youre a fool to just blindly accept the crap they force on you. as bill pointed out about the safe mercury levels, a little common sense goes a long way.


our pediatrician is a family friend who is giving his grandchildren the same treatment. I feel very comfortable with it.


Any idea how many people die a year from doctors misdiagnosis, wrongly administered treatments and just flat out incompetence? You trust politicians with your rights , without question, just because they are politicians? You trust contractors without question just because they are contractors? I guess that's a stress free way to go though life, never caring to learn anything because there are experts that can tell you what to think.


" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
Bama_Earl
Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: bill] #2143419
06/20/17 08:15 AM
06/20/17 08:15 AM
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9,541
Montgomery, AL
jbc Offline
14 point
jbc  Offline
14 point
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9,541
Montgomery, AL
Originally Posted by bill

Originally Posted by jbc
Originally Posted by metalmessiah
I would suggest everyone google the transcripts from the simpsonwood cdc conference before they argue this any further. the admissions made are eye opening to say the least, and straight from the horses mouth. vaccination is great when done properly. its when greedy bastards are doing it for profit that it gets sketchy. bottom line is youre a fool to just blindly accept the crap they force on you. as bill pointed out about the safe mercury levels, a little common sense goes a long way.


our pediatrician is a family friend who is giving his grandchildren the same treatment. I feel very comfortable with it.


Any idea how many people die a year from doctors misdiagnosis, wrongly administered treatments and just flat out incompetence? You trust politicians with your rights , without question, just because they are politicians? You trust contractors without question just because they are contractors? I guess that's a stress free way to go though life, never caring to learn anything because there are experts that can tell you what to think.


yes, I trust doctors who went to medical school and have years of experience. Thats the point of going to medical school. I did not, therefor their opinion is greater than mine, no matter how much WebMD you read

I am a contractor. Id like to hope that people trust me when working on their project. I strive daily so that they will.

No I do not trust politicians. Does anyone?

Re: Thoughts based on facts about vaccinating children. [Re: bill] #2143422
06/20/17 08:19 AM
06/20/17 08:19 AM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 185
Jacksonville
J
JSOG47 Offline
3 point
JSOG47  Offline
3 point
J
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 185
Jacksonville
Originally Posted by bill

Originally Posted by jbc
Originally Posted by metalmessiah
I would suggest everyone google the transcripts from the simpsonwood cdc conference before they argue this any further. the admissions made are eye opening to say the least, and straight from the horses mouth. vaccination is great when done properly. its when greedy bastards are doing it for profit that it gets sketchy. bottom line is youre a fool to just blindly accept the crap they force on you. as bill pointed out about the safe mercury levels, a little common sense goes a long way.


our pediatrician is a family friend who is giving his grandchildren the same treatment. I feel very comfortable with it.


Any idea how many people die a year from doctors misdiagnosis, wrongly administered treatments and just flat out incompetence? You trust politicians with your rights , without question, just because they are politicians? You trust contractors without question just because they are contractors? I guess that's a stress free way to go though life, never caring to learn anything because there are experts that can tell you what to think.


care free and I don't have polio. win win

This argument is a straw man anyway, none of those things have any thing to do with choosing to believe decades of medical research rewarding us with the eradication of disease over the word of a few wing nuts who use scary words and coincidences.

Page 5 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2025 Aldeer LLP.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1
</a