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by AustinC. 05/21/24 05:01 PM
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Re: Hot topics
[Re: BSK]
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03/11/15 03:08 AM
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Brent
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I told y'all he was still alive.
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Re: Hot topics
[Re: BSK]
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03/11/15 03:16 AM
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Throw n Grow vs. Traditional Farming vs. Spreading radioactive beans via UFO seem to be a hot one lately.
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Re: Hot topics
[Re: BSK]
#1292974
03/11/15 03:31 AM
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wmd
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Antlerless deer limits - 2/day (gone), 1/day with no season limit, an antlerless limit per season, limited doe days, ...
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" - D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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Re: Hot topics
[Re: BSK]
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03/11/15 04:06 AM
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For us it's doe limits. The DCNR had zones set up though out the state. Folks started whinning , so they took a hugh step backwards and made it same limit for the whole state. Feeding, baiting, whatever ya wanta call it is always on the radar also. I think you are 100% correct, don't think dropping the buck limit from 3 to 2 will make much difference in the big picture. I like 3 for Alabama , just right IMO.
"Why do you ask"?
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Re: Hot topics
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03/11/15 04:09 AM
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Corn. February hunting. Brent.
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Re: Hot topics
[Re: BSK]
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03/11/15 04:22 AM
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CNC
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You just missed a really good discussion on a man’s word….neighbors….and castration by rubber band.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Hot topics
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03/11/15 05:21 AM
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Antlerless deer limits - 2/day (gone), 1/day with no season limit, an antlerless limit per season, limited doe days, ... Yeah, our Unit L 3 does/day limit is a hot topic as well, especially after the herd never really rebounded after the '07 EHD die-off. Unfortunately, the answer is always site specific. Undoubtedly the deer population is probably below optimum (for hunters) in some areas due to a combination of the EHD and high doe harvests. However, other areas severely impacted by EHD are seeing a rapid expansion of the deer population. And we definitely don't want to go back to the population extremes of '05 and '06, just before the die-off. The harvest answers are always site-specific, and that goes for buck limits too.
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Re: Hot topics
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03/11/15 05:30 AM
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...and castration by rubber band. Of hunters, neighbors, or deer? All of 'em.......
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Hot topics
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03/11/15 05:56 AM
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I haven't kept up with the "politics" of deer hunting in Alabama. What are the hot topics? What do hunters think of the buck limits? What changes are hunters pushing for?
In TN, lowering the buck limits is the hot topic right now. Although little evidence exists the current 3 buck limit is allowing too many bucks to be killed, a very vocal segment of the hunting community is still pushing to lower the limit to 2. If that truly is what the majority of hunters want, I don't have a problem with that, although I seriously question whether it will make a difference. Seems like a small change(3 to 2) like that would take years to notice a difference.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Hot topics
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03/11/15 07:39 AM
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I haven't kept up with the "politics" of deer hunting in Alabama. What are the hot topics? What do hunters think of the buck limits? What changes are hunters pushing for?
In TN, lowering the buck limits is the hot topic right now. Although little evidence exists the current 3 buck limit is allowing too many bucks to be killed, a very vocal segment of the hunting community is still pushing to lower the limit to 2. If that truly is what the majority of hunters want, I don't have a problem with that, although I seriously question whether it will make a difference. Seems like a small change(3 to 2) like that would take years to notice a difference. Again, if hunters want a 2 buck limit, I'll support that. But the problem with saying it will help is the fact that almost no one is killing three bucks. First, of TN's 220,000 deer hunters, less than half kill even one deer a year. Only about a third kill even one buck in a given year. Of those who do kill bucks, only a tiny percentage (1-2%) actually kill 3 bucks. So is a 2 buck limit going to "save" many bucks? Probably not. On the flip side, it isn't going to inconvenience many hunters either. And the argument of the 2-buck supporters may be correct in that under a 2 buck limit more hunters will wait on killing a 2nd buck, knowing that ends their buck hunting for the year. The result being some of those hunters never do fill that last tag, hence some extra bucks are "saved." At the same time, I'm not sure this is needed, except in the lower deer density counties of eastern Middle, and East TN (units A and B). Most of the counties in the highest deer density areas (Unit L), have good harvested buck age structures, suggesting the age structure of the buck population is doing just fine. I hate to see hunters limited if that isn't biologically necessary. I'm a firm believer in the state providing hunters with the maximum freedom of harvest that will not do harm to the resource. I am deeply, DEEPLY opposed to the new movement towards managing state resources to produce large-antlered bucks. That's an effort best left to individual land-owners, not a system that should be forced on everybody by the state.
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Re: Hot topics
[Re: BSK]
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03/11/15 07:44 AM
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CNC
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We are going to a voluntary 2 buck limit at our hunting club next year. We are also pretty much doing away with any size restrictions. Nobody in the club is trying to slay small young bucks so all of the different antler, weight, age, etc. type restrictions were really just making it more cumbersome that it had to be in our situation. Now we’re just going to use total buck harvest as our model and allow members to “police” themselves. We felt like this would give each member the most freedom to choose when to shoot while still maintaining a very reasonable total harvest. We’ll see how this plays out over the course of next season.
I don’t feel however, that this is the best thing for the state to do right now. This is just a voluntary club decision on how we choose to manage one particular piece of property. I, as well as others, may have other pieces of property that we also hunt and properly “manage”. I don’t like the idea of continuing to be restricted more and more by the law. Anything further than what we have now needs to be voluntary.
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Hot topics
[Re: BSK]
#1293293
03/11/15 07:54 AM
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Posts: 14,647 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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I haven't kept up with the "politics" of deer hunting in Alabama. What are the hot topics? What do hunters think of the buck limits? What changes are hunters pushing for?
In TN, lowering the buck limits is the hot topic right now. Although little evidence exists the current 3 buck limit is allowing too many bucks to be killed, a very vocal segment of the hunting community is still pushing to lower the limit to 2. If that truly is what the majority of hunters want, I don't have a problem with that, although I seriously question whether it will make a difference. Seems like a small change(3 to 2) like that would take years to notice a difference. Again, if hunters want a 2 buck limit, I'll support that. But the problem with saying it will help is the fact that almost no one is killing three bucks. First, of TN's 220,000 deer hunters, less than half kill even one deer a year. Only about a third kill even one buck in a given year. Of those who do kill bucks, only a tiny percentage (1-2%) actually kill 3 bucks. So is a 2 buck limit going to "save" many bucks? Probably not. On the flip side, it isn't going to inconvenience many hunters either. And the argument of the 2-buck supporters may be correct in that under a 2 buck limit more hunters will wait on killing a 2nd buck, knowing that ends their buck hunting for the year. The result being some of those hunters never do fill that last tag, hence some extra bucks are "saved." At the same time, I'm not sure this is needed, except in the lower deer density counties of eastern Middle, and East TN (units A and B). Most of the counties in the highest deer density areas (Unit L), have good harvested buck age structures, suggesting the age structure of the buck population is doing just fine. I hate to see hunters limited if that isn't biologically necessary. I'm a firm believer in the state providing hunters with the maximum freedom of harvest that will not do harm to the resource. I am deeply, DEEPLY opposed to the new movement towards managing state resources to produce large-antlered bucks. That's an effort best left to individual land-owners, not a system that should be forced on everybody by the state. I know anter restrictions doesn't boost population as a whole. With that being the case, the antler management on State lands is more for the hunters. It's a tight rope that they have to walk. Because if hunter satisfaction is down, pretty soon the hunter numbers will be down. When the hunter numbers go down, so does the money coming to the State. Do you feel that this is the reason why they're managing from an outside of biological reasons standpoint?
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Hot topics
[Re: BSK]
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03/11/15 08:05 AM
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BSK
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I know anter restrictions doesn't boost population as a whole. With that being the case, the antler management on State lands is more for the hunters. It's a tight rope that they have to walk. Because if hunter satisfaction is down, pretty soon the hunter numbers will be down. When the hunter numbers go down, so does the money coming to the State. Do you feel that this is the reason why they're managing from an outside of biological reasons standpoint? I fully support a state managing different public lands under a variety of rules. This gives the non-landowning public the chance to hunt different types of management strategies. TN has some public lands managed using nothing but the annual bag limit as the only buck restriction. They also have some public lands under "QDM-type" restrictions. In addition, they have a couple being managed for trophy potential. Giving hunters a choice of management systems to hunt is a great idea. I just don't want the state telling all hunters what age bucks to kill. Making suggestions is one thing, but trying to outlaw the killing of young bucks absolutely will drive hunters away from the sport. And in most of the Southeast, is not biologically necessary.
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Re: Hot topics
[Re: BSK]
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03/11/15 08:27 AM
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I know anter restrictions doesn't boost population as a whole. With that being the case, the antler management on State lands is more for the hunters. It's a tight rope that they have to walk. Because if hunter satisfaction is down, pretty soon the hunter numbers will be down. When the hunter numbers go down, so does the money coming to the State. Do you feel that this is the reason why they're managing from an outside of biological reasons standpoint? I fully support a state managing different public lands under a variety of rules. This gives the non-landowning public the chance to hunt different types of management strategies. TN has some public lands managed using nothing but the annual bag limit as the only buck restriction. They also have some public lands under "QDM-type" restrictions. In addition, they have a couple being managed for trophy potential. Giving hunters a choice of management systems to hunt is a great idea. I just don't want the state telling all hunters what age bucks to kill. Making suggestions is one thing, but trying to outlaw the killing of young bucks absolutely will drive hunters away from the sport. And in most of the Southeast, is not biologically necessary. Gotcha.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Hot topics
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03/11/15 12:44 PM
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Teacher One
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Glad to see you back X2! As a TN landowner I have been following you on Tndeer since you have been gone. One of the topics we kicked around for a while was how to control the tagging system that we have in place here in AL. It has more holes in it than a screen door. it is a pitiful excuse for accountable harvest data in my opinion. All you do is copy another sheet and you are ready to go. This needs fixed soon. Another topic of concern here in North Alabama is the liberal doe harvest that has dwindled our population down tremendously. We are simply killing too many does. Throw in the predation by coyotes and we have a recipe for disaster. Many here want to go to a one week doe season and call it quits if that much. A closed season on does would suit a lot of us just fine.
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