Aldeer.com Forums Alabama Deer Talk Aldeer General Forum Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them

Millry,Al 2011 A case came up where a owner of a Briar Creek Lodge (Larry Adams) was charged with shooting a deer dog on his property. The court found him quilty and it cost him around $2700 for killing the dog.

Bamachem, I don't want to get into any pissing match with you,I have come to respect you and your intelligence on a lot of matters that have been discussed on here.And yes I know a lot of doghunters are their on worst enemy,but I do know that there have been people convicted of killing hunting dogs in Alabama,I am not good at searching case law and all that stuff.One that comes to mind I think was in Lee county back in 2001 when a man shot a mans coon dog,he was convicted.So I think you might be wrong on this one.Check it out since you seem to be so good at that kind of thing.

Yea cb1 you are correct I forgot about that case

Guys, you can't just shoot a dog because its on your property. If it is actively chasing a deer in a threatening manner, you are within your rights to shoot it then, and only when it is threatening. You cannot shoot it after it quits threatening (chasing)! If you shoot it after the chase has subsided and you admit to doing so, then you can be prosecuted under the statutes pertaining to cruelty to animals. You also have to intend to inflict pain or injury. If you shoot, and the law shows up, exercise your rights and don't say a thing.

Spout off about how you called it up and then shot it or how it got what it deserved and you can expect trouble!

You can always start bombarding the offending dog owner with invoices for your time, expenses and prorata share of the lease costs for time you are not able to hunt because you are chasing HIS dogs down on your property. Bill every month including interest on non-payment, then after the third month start threatening to take him to civil court for non-payment of services rendered. He is obviously requiring your services to retrieve his dogs for him and therefore should pay you for those services and expenses. Otherwise, he would make sure his dogs did not trespass on your property. It is HIS RESPONBSIBILITY to keep his animals under control at ALL times. The fine from the courts are only a punishment, your time, effort and costs are SERVICES he obviously choses to use. If he fails to pay start putting liens on his properties for failure to pay. The first LIEN notice will get his attention. Of course, you can always catch the dogs and take them to the local shelter, then he will have to pay to get them back. Again it is his responsibility to keep his animals under control.

Each case is gonna be different. It is gonna be based on statements (if any) made by the alleged offender and the totality of the circumstances. One can shoot a dog and be legal or illegal..it depends.

I don't dog hunt anymore, been over 12 years ago, but if someone is aggravated and shoots the wrong guys dog and he knows who did it the problems/aggravation is just starting. If I knew who it was that shot one of my dogs they wouldn't have any more fun hunting in that area.

This is what makes all the things Andy posted irrelevant in the case of hunting dogs:

•Definition of trespassing. Trespassing can be defined as a criminal act involving the entrance onto land or private property without consent from the owner or person leasing the land.


•Demonstration of intent. This is usually important in cases stemming from a trespass. For example, someone who unknowingly entered onto unmarked land, but left at the landowner''s request, would not likely be held accountable in court.

And you obviously need to go look up the definition of the word accompany.


Definition of accompany (v)

ac·com·pa·ny

1.escort somebody: to go with somebody
2.be present with something: to be enclosed, attached, or present with something

If the dog owner is on his land and his dog is 1/2 a mile away on my land then how in the hell is that accompanying said animal? And if he did accompany it onto my land then he would be tresspassing. So either way the dog owner would be violating one law or another.

Absolutely spot on. This attitude of "If my dogs cross onto your land tough s###, there ain't nothing you can do about cause the dog doesn't know any better; along with the threats of violence if anyone harms their dog is going to be the final death blow to hunting deer with dogs in Alabama. When ever it comes to a vote to limit or ban dog hunting down the road all the stand and still hunt landowners you have hiked your leg and pissed on over the years are gonna turn their backs on you. Then you can take your pack of hounds out in the yard and have them retrieve tennis balls for you. Cause that's all in the hell they will be good for in the future. And as BC said, you will have no one to blame but yourselves.

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I have often caught a hunting dog and called the owner.No problem because I dog hunted at one time myself.However if it kept happening,it would be a problem.People just get fed up with it after a while and that is when problems start.The law then has to intervine to stop the problems.

Deer huntings roots lye in hunting with dogs. I personally do not like a dog ruining my still hunt but I am not going to stoop so low as to harm a mans dog. This issue is just a sign as to where deer hunting is headed. We used to have plenty of land to roam around and hunt on free of charge. Slowly but surely deer hunting has became a money thing. We have less land to roam around and hunt on so dog hunting has become the minority and the money it cost to hunt quality land has risen substainaly.

DOG HUNTERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!

AS LONG AS THEY KEEP THEIR DOGS ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

All I got to say about this is...


I would hate to be a CAB member this year. With this stuff and the February thingy coming up.

Danny, we are not discussing the statute for trespass by a person. That's a different one. Section 13A-7-1, to be exact.

This statute we are discussing is strictly and only for keeping your dogs on your own property.

Besides, you are posting definitions. I posted a law. Which one is enforceable by a court?

Smartest Move I ever made was to put my gun down. Been hunting in a hollow of the side of a road. Had a fawn bedded 50 yards behind me. Started hearing a damn beagle... he tracked straight to the fawn and the chase set in. I watched.... got angered at the dog for ruining my hunt. Finally came out of my stand... and there was the dog.. within 50 yards... I had him in my scope crosshairs and just looked... finally I thought I would just try to call him up and take him away, ( knowing he doesnt belong here as there are only two houses even remotely close... and they dont own beagles) .... I tried to call him... he came close then ran off... I said F it and walked up the hill back to my truck... as I crested the hill... there stood 4 dog hunters! One of me... 4 of them... I dont think I would have won that one... but I was able to voice my opinion of their dog running on my land. BTW... the land we hunt... and for miles each direction....dog hunting isnt legal. But the excuse I was given was the dog ran off and they were just looking for it. BS. Not all... but a large number of dog hunters are no better than spot lighters... no regard for others property.

Is It legal to shoot a wire haired wiener dog trailing a wounded deer?

My take, Frankie and Hogwild are wrong. Just my take.

Don't have anything against either of you, I just think ya'll are wrong.

Hope you have a great last two weeks of the season.