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These fields tend to get really thick weeds that grow tall and then lay down in dense mats when they go dormant. Even though our tractor guy has a relatively heavy disc, it gives him trouble and requires multiple passes to get the dirt the way he wants it. I want them dead and ideally rotting before we have to come through and prep the fields.
One or two of the fields get these small saplings as well. What you do is get out there during August and just bush hog the fields down to the dirt and when you come back with the disk it works a lot better. Having a heavy disk is a relative thing... There is "heavy" and then there is one that works 1 pass through 7ft. high crap. When you bush hog in August you size everything then and eliminate all the balled up residual grass issues you'll deal with when planting your plots. This is all really easy stuff. Unfortunately I think what most of y'all are doing with this scientific theory is 1) screwing around 2) making Dr. Deer money 3) creating problems that don't exist. If you want to play farmer get some equipment and do it right. I can't imagine some of the expense and trouble y'all are going through to plant something that will literally come up just fine if you throw it out on the top of the ground. Get a kick outta the guys that think they need to disc every inch of the soil or use high $ tillers just to plant a dang game plot.. Each to his own i reckon
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I sprayed my fields today!
If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
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Booner
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Booner
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I sorayed ny fields last weekend - starting to look pretty dead now
I need to hit a field w lime. Did it late last year and fields turned great in January
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
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Freak of Nature
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I bushhog, then spray, then plant about two weeks later. I've done side-by sides and discing doesn't change a thing at my place. It just wastes time and diesel.
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Does anyone burn after spraying?
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Does anyone burn after spraying? Depends on how thick the thatch from mowing is. so, occasionally yes.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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They Call Me Gator 🐊
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I’m in North Alabama. I bush hogged this past weekend, will spray this coming weekend or the next for a 21 SEP planting
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Time and money.... is most of what you need when you are dealing with inadequate equipment.
I am going to bush hog next weekend. Probably cost me around $100 in fuel give or take I can run most of the day on 20 gallons. I'll be done before 3:00PM. I'll cut the 30 +acres and I'll get the roads cleaned up at the same time.
Pretty easy.
We'll disk mid-September cost me another $150 at most. I'll burn fuel pulling the disk.
Then we will throw seed on it and drag. If we can get lined up with some rain we'll do all that in a single weekend.
It just gives us more time to get the place looking nice and ready for season. We aren't out there on a toy going in circles spraying money out on the ground.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Dances With Weeds
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Time and money.... is most of what you need when you are dealing with inadequate equipment.
I am going to bush hog next weekend. Probably cost me around $100 in fuel give or take I can run most of the day on 20 gallons. I'll be done before 3:00PM. I'll cut the 30 +acres and I'll get the roads cleaned up at the same time.
Pretty easy.
We'll disk mid-September cost me another $150 at most. I'll burn fuel pulling the disk.
Then we will throw seed on it and drag. If we can get lined up with some rain we'll do all that in a single weekend.
It just gives us more time to get the place looking nice and ready for season. We aren't out there on a toy going in circles spraying money out on the ground.
I cant believe you're still disking......I figured you knew better by now.
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Unfortunately... despite what anyone "wants" with these other techniques.... disking is by far the fastest most cost effective option. That's not even up for debate.
Y'all are spending more $$ on Roundup than I am on just about all my input costs with the exception of seed/fertilizer. We are all paying the same for that.
If you want to do some math I can very quickly break it down for you.
I am not against "no-till" that's how I plant my crops. I just don't do this for food plots because it is stupid to do that IMO. Your mix is mostly wheat. You can just throw that out on the ground and it will come up? Everyone knows that we've been top sowing winter wheat in this Country since the 1930's.
Y'all are wasting a lot of time. Maybe you don't care about your money or time.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Old Mossy Horns
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Unfortunately... despite what anyone "wants" with these other techniques.... disking is by far the fastest most cost effective option. That's not even up for debate.
Y'all are spending more $$ on Roundup than I am on just about all my input costs with the exception of seed/fertilizer. We are all paying the same for that.
If you want to do some math I can very quickly break it down for you.
I am not against "no-till" that's how I plant my crops. I just don't do this for food plots because it is stupid to do that IMO. Your mix is mostly wheat. You can just throw that out on the ground and it will come up? Everyone knows that we've been top sowing winter wheat in this Country since the 1930's.
Y'all are wasting a lot of time. Maybe you don't care about your money or time. Why would you spray an area that you were gonna plant and bush hog? I’ve always just bush hogged mine after I planted. It saves me alot of time and money by doing it that way than when I disked my fields. Btw, none of mine are planted in wheat. 🤷🏼♂️
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Probably to kill all the competitive root structure so the crop is healthier. I can see not utilizing herbicide if the current weed status is low. Mine is lush with unwanted species so I’m going to kill it this year. Next year I may not, especially if I plant the right fall crop or decide to plant a summer crop.
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Dances With Weeds
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Unfortunately... despite what anyone "wants" with these other techniques.... disking is by far the fastest most cost effective option. That's not even up for debate.
Y'all are spending more $$ on Roundup than I am on just about all my input costs with the exception of seed/fertilizer. We are all paying the same for that.
If you want to do some math I can very quickly break it down for you.
I am not against "no-till" that's how I plant my crops. I just don't do this for food plots because it is stupid to do that IMO. Your mix is mostly wheat. You can just throw that out on the ground and it will come up? Everyone knows that we've been top sowing winter wheat in this Country since the 1930's.
Y'all are wasting a lot of time. Maybe you don't care about your money or time. Why would you spray an area that you were gonna plant and bush hog? I’ve always just bush hogged mine after I planted. It saves me alot of time and money by doing it that way than when I disked my fields. Btw, none of mine are planted in wheat. 🤷🏼♂️ Yep
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Booner
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Maybe some folks dont hav a bushhog or a tractor - oh yea - those would be cheap to buy - just a few $100 dollars 🤣🤣
You dont need to do math for me and if i dont spray my fields - they will get over head high
Wish i had a bush hog - too Much dow for me to spend!! I sprayed my fields graveyard dead for $100 bucks - all 4 of them
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Booner
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Spray then disc and plant. When you spray you don't have to cut. Let the disc's do that. Everyone has their own method and I'm sure they all work in the end.
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I would much rather use an atv/utv to spray than to put a heavy ass tractor on a plot. A tractor can cause compaction issues. Once you get a good kill, spread seed. The dead thatch protects the seed and soil and feeds the soil. Much rather ride an atv than a tractor.
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So just reporting back here …
We sprayed a month or little more ago. Planting happened a couple weeks back just before the hard rain. Our tractor guy said it diced really easy after it all died. Visually, the field prep looks much nicer and flatter than before. I haven’t been down to the club but I hear it’s coming up nicely. Of course my fear is that yeah we caught that one rain right after we planted but it might not rain again till November. It’s going to be what it is. But as far as field prep goes, we will strongly consider spraying next year as well.
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