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maybe, maybe, maybe....I say a yote will climb thru and over a ten foot pile of persimmons/plums on the off chance he MAY find a fresh born fawn...... +1 You guys are using human logic trying to suppress ingrained natural gut instinct. It doesn't work that way. You could use choppers to saturate an area with fillet mignon, New York strips or whatever, and the local song dogs would still seek out and prey upon fawns.
"As the deer panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee"
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The idea that the coyote population increases with the available food would make me think that making available plum or other food for them would not be a good idea. Adding native plum thickets is a habitat improvement that enhances a property for lots of wildlife. Its not just feeding coyotes. If we made a list of all the direct and indirect effects caused from adding plum thickets…then feeding yotes would be one item on a long list of things. Habitat improvements like wild native plum thickets, increases a property’s total potential for wildlife. The habitat is the initial source of energy that drives all of the different cycles happening within it. The more energy you put into the system in the form of food and cover….then the more potential output you get from a total wildlife perspective. To use some crude numbers to represent what I’m talking about…..its like saying that without plum thickets we have 5 yotes, 10 deer, and 0 quail. With plum thickets we now have 7 yotes, 15 deer and 5 quail. Did the number of yotes increase? Yes…..but it was a result of increasing the potential of the whole system through improving the initial source….the habitat. You could make this analogy with other things too like fire or timber thinning, etc….they increase the initial food and cover sources which in turn increase all wildlife potential. I’d have to think that it’s very unlikely that adding plum thickets is going to have a negative impact
Folks that know don't shoot old does........ 
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If you improve the habitat for game, the coyotes will reap the benefits, just like we do. They follow the game. I guess we can't worry too much about it.
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The idea that the coyote population increases with the available food would make me think that making available plum or other food for them would not be a good idea. Adding native plum thickets is a habitat improvement that enhances a property for lots of wildlife. Its not just feeding coyotes. If we made a list of all the direct and indirect effects caused from adding plum thickets…then feeding yotes would be one item on a long list of things. Habitat improvements like wild native plum thickets, increases a property’s total potential for wildlife. The habitat is the initial source of energy that drives all of the different cycles happening within it. The more energy you put into the system in the form of food and cover….then the more potential output you get from a total wildlife perspective. To use some crude numbers to represent what I’m talking about…..its like saying that without plum thickets we have 5 yotes, 10 deer, and 0 quail. With plum thickets we now have 7 yotes, 15 deer and 5 quail. Did the number of yotes increase? Yes…..but it was a result of increasing the potential of the whole system through improving the initial source….the habitat. You could make this analogy with other things too like fire or timber thinning, etc….they increase the initial food and cover sources which in turn increase all wildlife potential. I’d have to think that it’s very unlikely that adding plum thickets is going to have a negative impact you might consider putting that crack pipe down for a while.... 
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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The idea that the coyote population increases with the available food would make me think that making available plum or other food for them would not be a good idea. Adding native plum thickets is a habitat improvement that enhances a property for lots of wildlife. Its not just feeding coyotes. If we made a list of all the direct and indirect effects caused from adding plum thickets…then feeding yotes would be one item on a long list of things. Habitat improvements like wild native plum thickets, increases a property’s total potential for wildlife. The habitat is the initial source of energy that drives all of the different cycles happening within it. The more energy you put into the system in the form of food and cover….then the more potential output you get from a total wildlife perspective. To use some crude numbers to represent what I’m talking about…..its like saying that without plum thickets we have 5 yotes, 10 deer, and 0 quail. With plum thickets we now have 7 yotes, 15 deer and 5 quail. Did the number of yotes increase? Yes…..but it was a result of increasing the potential of the whole system through improving the initial source….the habitat. You could make this analogy with other things too like fire or timber thinning, etc….they increase the initial food and cover sources which in turn increase all wildlife potential. I’d have to think that it’s very unlikely that adding plum thickets is going to have a negative impact you might consider putting that crack pipe down for a while.... Puff, Puff, pass!  CNC has been Puffing but forgot to pass! 
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you might consider putting that crack pipe down for a while.... Dang Troy.....Just two posts ago you said my theories sounded good.
Folks that know don't shoot old does........
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Puff, Puff, pass! CNC has been Puffing but forgot to pass! Yeah well....like I said before. There was also a whole lot of people on the "Cover Crop and No-Till" thread who said I was smoking crack back then when I told them that disking and plowing is just unnecessary for planting food plots but they weren't as right then as they thought either. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it! 
Last edited by CNC; 05/19/14 12:36 PM.
Folks that know don't shoot old does........
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Forget all that fruit tree crap, just dump gut piles on your neighbors land every night during fawning season
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