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by Bmyers142 - 05/09/25 05:23 PM
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Glad you changed your mind.  Please, if you can, show me where I ever said that there was any biological issue with hunting them in the spring?? Once... anywhere... go ahead and go back as far as you need... just one quote... 
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I could not imagine owning or having rights to a place with 26 birds per square mile! From my past experience having 4 or 5 gobblers on a 600 acre tract is dang good. I just cannot fathom having a spot 640 acres with 10-20 longbeards on it,and more to spare on the surrounding land. Were talking total turkeys not gobblers. You would have to think maybe half that is hens so about 12 male birds so maybe half jakes half longbeards. So 6 longbeards on 640 acres seems about like 25 turkeys/sq mile
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Turkey Nut
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I would be happy with a limit of 1............. Per day. 
Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
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Old Mossy Horns
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[quote=N2TRKYS][quote=gobbler][quote=N2TRKYS][quote=gobbler][quote=teamduckdown]
Spring season is only a function of hunter pleasure - they would rather kill one gobbling than in the fall - NO biological reason for it!
83% of all statistics are made up.
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[quote=N2TRKYS][quote=gobbler][quote=N2TRKYS][quote=gobbler][quote=teamduckdown]
Spring season is only a function of hunter pleasure - they would rather kill one gobbling than in the fall - NO biological reason for it!
Comprehension is a wonderful thing. no biological reason does not mean any biological issue with spring season, positive or negative. It means just that - no biological reason for spring season. They set it because they liked to hunt gobbling birds and it there is no biological issue with it.
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Old Mossy Horns
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[quote=N2TRKYS][quote=gobbler][quote=N2TRKYS][quote=gobbler][quote=teamduckdown]
Spring season is only a function of hunter pleasure - they would rather kill one gobbling than in the fall - NO biological reason for it!
Comprehension is a wonderful thing. no biological reason does not mean any biological issue with spring season, positive or negative. It means just that - no biological reason for spring season. They set it because they liked to hunt gobbling birds and it there is no biological issue with it. Yes it does. Which brings me to my op. What is the biological reason for having it in the Fall verses the Spring? Besides, because that's when they set the seasons years ago when they first started hunting seasons.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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What is the biological reason for having it in the Fall verses the Spring? Besides, because that's when they set the seasons years ago when they first started hunting seasons. I'm going to let someone with more patience take over from here.
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Booner
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GWs have caught plenty of folks killing over the daily limit; I know some personally. Even related to one.  Did you make him walk to the front on Sunday morning?  No, that was long before I became a preacher. He was young and dumb; didn't even know it was against the law to kill 2 in a day. Willingly opened the trunk of his car and showed them to the GW. Paid the fine and they actually gave him his turkeys back.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Booner
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Preacher I agree with you to an extent. I have never taken over the limit. I may have on occasion taken over the daily limit but if I did it was by accident. But as ive already said, as long as 5 is the limit, that's my goal. But if 3 were the limit, then that would be my goal. Either way I have a goal.
As ive already said though, I can have just as much fun with them even after killing a limit. I don't really think I would kill more than 5 if the limit was just one a day; 5 is just the number in my head after all these years. I would be unhappy if they changed it to 3. But I really think there is a good chance I wouldn't feel the pressure to hunt as hard with a one-a-day limit. With no goal, it wouldn't matter if I killed just 3 or 4. I think I would take a more laid back approach. I'm not sure of this; would have to experience it to know. What they really need a season limit on is ducks. I haven't killed a single duck the last 3 seasons, while other guys kill dozens or even hundreds. How is that fair? They should give out tags and strictly enforce a 3 duck season limit. Nobody needs to kill more than 3 ducks in a season.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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What is the biological reason for having it in the Fall verses the Spring? Besides, because that's when they set the seasons years ago when they first started hunting seasons. I'm going to let someone with more patience take over from here.  I've almost lost mine with you. Just tell him he's right!
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What they really need a season limit on is ducks. I haven't killed a single duck the last 3 seasons, while other guys kill dozens or even hundreds. How is that fair? They should give out tags and strictly enforce a 3 duck season limit. Nobody needs to kill more than 3 ducks in a season. The problem is - if they set a 3 duck limit you would then, naturally, go out and kill your 3 ducks, thereby increasing the overall harvest! Now that I think about it, I know a lot of folks that give away deer meat - maybe no one needs to kill more than one buck and one doe a year. I feel that is a fair limit
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A better discussion would be why don't we have an increase in the per day limit. Lots of people can double in Georgia, and if it was legal here, I could have doubled this year and be sitting at 3 birds instead of 2, if I was counting. If the overall limit is 5, what does it matter when you kill your 5?
I agree 5 birds is 5 birds but if there were no daily limit in place There would be more gobblers killed,the first bird I killed this year had 2 other gobblers with him,I know I could have killed both with one shot easily,since that day those other two gobblers have not been killed yet and may not get killed this year,you said you could have doubled one day but since you couldn't legally kill more than one per day you've only killed 2 birds this season instead of 3,do you see how the 1 per day keeps less birds from being harvested?I've had several seasons where if I would have killed the multiple gobblers that I called up together I would have limited out,instead I fell short those years and only killed 3 or 4 those seasons
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Thanks to the 100% accurate game check system . Before long it will be a half a turkey a season and 11 point or better on deer. Sorry to have to say this but I think that's all a big waste of money that could have been spent on the wildlife itself. For instance in the bankhead I can take anyone to field after field that's not seen a seed in years maybe a bush hog ever now and then.
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I'll throw this out there... I dont think you can kill out your birds. I do think the state should go back to a 3 bird limit. I mean no man needs more than 3 realistically.
You usually have sanity and value in your posts... The above is the worst, narsisitic, self centered, rediculous, reasoning for changing a limit. There is NO biological reasoning to your concept, only "well, I would be happy with and don't need more than 3 so I don't think anyone else needs more than 3 either." In all honesty, no one cares what you would be happy with, but what scares me is the other folks that think it might be a good idea to set limits on critters based on what they think would be "fair" for us all (I.e. The legislature). I had thi same discussion with our previous director when the limit was changed from 6 to 5 with NO biological data nor reasoning!! My .02 MIGHT AS WELL GO BACK TO A 3 BIRD LIMIT,, HELL THEY SAY YOU CAN KILL ALL THE DEER OFF A PIECE OF PROPERTY.  
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What started out as a good discussion has turned out to be a dumpster fire!
I think the seasons are good, season limit is good, and 1 a day is good. The only chance I would like to see is a real tagging system such as the one Tennessee uses. And screw the deer hunting.
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Booner
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The only chance I would like to see is a real tagging system such as the one Tennessee uses.
What purpose does that serve? Same purpose as the failed Game Check.... It serves none....
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The only chance I would like to see is a real tagging system such as the one Tennessee uses.
What purpose does that serve? Same purpose as the failed Game Check.... It serves none.... I am not going to mess around with you and argue. It gets an idea of how many birds are killed each year and in what county. Game check failure because it isn't required. If they would require us to check birds in at "gas stations" it wouldn't fail. Some what get away with it, but I am talking about the majority.
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Booner
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The only chance I would like to see is a real tagging system such as the one Tennessee uses.
What purpose does that serve? Same purpose as the failed Game Check.... It serves none.... I am not going to mess around with you and argue. I'm not looking to argue... I simply told you it's purpose... It has none...
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Freak of Nature
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I'll give you a "real purpose" for a tagging system. It allows a GW to actually ticket a person for an untagged turkey...you know those guys who always have killed "four" birds?? The ones that kill 7-10-15 birds a season?? I knew a guy from Pickens Co that killed 45 in one season.....
I've never heard of anyone being ticketed for killing over the season limit..never.
Every enforcement Officer I ever knew was in favor of a tagging system to slow down the chronic offenders. Catch em coming out of the woods with an untagged bird...BAM. It won't stop em but most of us thought it could make a dent in the illegal kill.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Booner
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I agree Fred. If someone is against taking 25 seconds to put a tag on their bird, well.... You might just be an outlaw.
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