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CLEM you are right, I never said that is not right. What I am saying is that it was a honest mistake. IF I HAD BEEN TRYING TO AVOID THAT LAW I COULD HAVE LIED
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Mildly Quirky
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I didn't say it wasn't an honest mistake. Just trying to interject a little levity. I've never had a Walmart clerk give me a 'harvest report' with my license. Guess they were trying to be nice without realizing it might cause a problem.
I agree it's something that is problematic, especially for you now, and could have been handled better by the GW.
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It sounds like about the only way out is to go to a jury trial.
You can probably beat it there.
Fact is, you broke the letter of the Law and ignorance of that Law is no excuse in Court.
But, I don't think that you broke the INTENT of the Law and a jury's judegement will probably agree.
It sure sounds like the GW was 'sicced' on you.
Watch your back!
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fact: you were in violation by having TWO harvest records I was in possession of two harvest records all season long. One was mine, one was my 10 year old son's. Could some jack leg warden with an agenda claim I was in violation too? CD.
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I was thinking the same thing. I had 3 (mine, sons, and daughters) with me and I keep the hunting digest in my backpack, so I essentially have 4 harvest records on me at all times. Scary to think I could be charged for trying to do the right thing.
Take your kids hunting instead of hunting your kids.
I'd rather be LOST in the woods than FOUND in the city.
Drive a hybrid, I need your gas.
Your mind is your primary weapon. Never let it get rusty.
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Well I think the whole reason why I got ticketed is because I used the wrong one and that meant that I showed her that I had two.
OH well you live and you learn. Just pisses me off because I was trying to obey the law.
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BTW, we need to see the a pic of this buck!!
Take your kids hunting instead of hunting your kids.
I'd rather be LOST in the woods than FOUND in the city.
Drive a hybrid, I need your gas.
Your mind is your primary weapon. Never let it get rusty.
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I posted pictures of this buck already. but I think it was before the crash. It grossed 179.25. The largest I have heard of this year in Alabama
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you could carry around a stack of them and not be in violation. However, if you have one attached to your license, you need to fill that one out. I have a lifetime hunting and freshwater fishing license, so I have to get the booklet to get the harvest record out of it every year. If you have your childs harvest record with you as well, you might want to put their name on it so their is no confusion.
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forgot to add, to the warden it appeared you were 'saving' the one attached to your hunting license for later. Pay the ticket and learn from your honest mistake.
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things that make you go hmmmmmmm
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forgot to add, to the warden it appeared you were 'saving' the one attached to your hunting license for later. Pay the ticket and learn from your honest mistake. And let the warden win? No way!!!!!!!
doecommander out...........................
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How much was the ticket for?
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forgot to add, to the warden it appeared you were 'saving' the one attached to your hunting license for later. Pay the ticket and learn from your honest mistake. And let the warden win? No way!!!!!!! the warden doesn't care who wins, if the wardens and law enforcement officers took everyone's word that they were innocent, the prisons would be empty. The only other option was a warning to the hunter instead of a ticket.
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I called to fine out how much it was, and my court house said they have never had a ticket like this before. So they called montgomery, court appearence only.. that way they can get me for court cost as well. GUYS THIS IS A BULLSHIT TICKET.
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KENDALL, if i was hiding or trying to beat the stupid reg. I would have lied gave her the dup. told her i was hunting on my land and did not have lic. Like I said this is bogus
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and no you cannot carry around a stack of them. if that was the case i would not have gotten a ticket. She said "you tried to follow the law, you just have a dup." no where does it say don't cut away this one that is on your lic. so I guess you can fill out that one, cut it away, get another. BULLSHIT LAW
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Pimp Daddy
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I'm not exactly sure how all the court thing works out. I can tell you once in Atlanta, I appealed a speeding ticket. Judge asked me if I was sure I wanted to appeal and I said ABSOLUTELY. So she called for the balif, who handcuffed me and put me in a waiting cell. When I asked the judge what was going on, she said, in the state of GA, if you appeal a ticket, you wait in jail until the appeal date or fine is paid. 5 hours later I was standing in front of her pleading guilty to the 105 mph speeding ticket.
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the state should just issue tags when you buy a license
and do away with the harvest record!
I guess I was in violation all season because I had a reg book
in my truck...
A free people ought to be armed. George Washington
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I take a lot of heat for emphasizing that the commissioner is required by law to publish and make available for general distribution all laws together with his rules in pamlet form. The Huntin and Fishing Digest is not official, and it does not contain laws and regulations... it paraphrases the laws and regulations and does it incompletely. This paragraph of 220-2-.146 is not found in the Hunting and Fishing Digest: (3) Hunting license holders whose licenses have a harvest record form on their licenses shall be required to use the harvest record form located on their licenses. All other persons shall utilize a form substantially identical to the form shown in paragraph (2) above. Anybody who supported the buck limtit and this rule that was attached to it, I don't have any sympathy for you when this kind of crap happens. Those who wish for more rules to be added to the volumes of rules we already have should just suck it up take it. They ask for it. I've watched it happen for over 50 years and it just gets worse all the time. A lot of good people have lost a lot of money for no good reason thru the years, and lots of good people have lost respect for the DCNR because of it.
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49'er....Good post
I admit that I am ignorant on this subject.Where can I find and read the actual laws regarding fish and game. Also when "they" add or revise a law how do we go about finding out about it. I realize these are simple questions but I didnt realize that the laws in the hunting and fishing digest were incomplete.
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Job 33:4
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