I had the Muck Woody Max boots for 6 or 7 years, no problems, plenty warm, water proof. They finally started coming apart so I retired them. Then I thought I would go the cheap route and buy the Muck Wetlands for $140. MISTAKE. Even in upper 20's my feet freeze. Tomorrow morning is supposed to be around 15 degrees, i'm sure I will have to put some of the hot hands down around my toes so I can feel them.....