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Alright, that's it. Discussion over. Clem's getting upset.
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Clem, you are too funny!!! 
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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For all the Advisory Board worshipers that get upset if you talk about hunting unless you are in one of their meetings: For the record May, 2007 Subject: Vote on motion for qdm hunting restriction [page 88 CAB meeting minutes] 13 DR. STRICKLAND: In my motion, 14 there was no room for -- there was no 15 concern with tagging. Did you 16 understand what -- I want the board to 17 understand that that motion did not 18 include tags. 19 MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, no tags. 20 DR. STRICKLAND: No tags. I just 21 wanted to make sure you understand. 22 MR. COLES: To clarify where I 23 was coming from and to maybe redirect
1 some of what you said, I would say 2 leave it up to these guys to decide 3 the implementation process, if any. 4 DR. STRICKLAND: Actually, I'm 5 against tagging.
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Why not at least take advantage of the opportunity to speak directly to them as a group?
They're there. You know the time and location for each meeting. Even if you do only have 3-5 minutes, you can talk with them during breaks or before/after. That opportunity exists. Use it.
49er says he's taken his own route and spoken directly with others. Good for him. That's a step, too.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Why does someone who is serious about deer and deer hunting always get called a 'Trophy Hunter' in a derogatory manner?
It irks me to no end to see grown men, seasoned hunters no-less, with a shed full of spikes and other small yearling bucks antlers. It HAS slowed down with the 3 buck limit. But, mostly just by the law-abiding hunters.
A 'real' tag would go even farther and be much more enforcable! Think about it.....you could not let anybody see a set of antlers that did not have a tag attached, much less take him to a processor or taxidermist.
I also agree with Outback that MANY hunters don't even buy a hunting license!!!!!
The lack of tags, and the repurcussions of having an 'untagged' buck might would help to encourage more to buy licenses.
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Great Post Hogwild! I'd love to see all those piles of basket racks disappear from all pickup beds.
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Perch,
Sometimes well-meaning people get so caught up in their OWN civil liberties that they fail to see the greater good.
The Tagging would be a HUGE help to Law Enforcement!!!
It might not stop the night and road hunting......but, the ones doing it had better not get caught with a fresh rack that is not tagged!!! And most criminals aren't real smart! LOL
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You don't have to do a tag a teli check system works great. Just call your kill in to a recorded message get a kill number and log it on your license. Theres a dozen states that do this and it works great. If a processor has a buck with no kill number he gets fined along with the person who kills the deer its simple. 
If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
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You don't have to do a tag a teli check system works great. Just call your kill in to a recorded message get a kill number and log it on your license. Theres a dozen states that do this and it works great. If a processor has a buck with no kill number he gets fined along with the person who kills the deer its simple. Oh yeah, don't forget to require every licensed hunter that kills a deer to use only approved processors and if you process your own and you don't have a log number then there is really a huge fine. Ooops, I forgot GWs don't have time to check every house. Only the honest people are going to do what is required, which I would bet almost 100% of the honest people now comply. It's like gun control, it only controls the honest people.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Might just be me.....
But I think that a tag that remains permanently attached to the antlers would help to solve many of the existing problems.
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things that make you go hmmmmmmm
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Do you also want the warden to go hunting with you and hold your hand. Just more big brother government getting involved in every aspect of life. Let me guess yall are all democrats too. Why don't we just let the federal government issue us our deer tags? Why not? The do such a great job with everything else. (Ha Ha)
doecommander out...........................
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Might just be me.....
But I think that a tag that remains permanently attached to the antlers would help to solve many of the existing problems. I completely agree. People have different opinions , but like I said we couldn�t go from no tags to having to attach one to the antler. So I think we currently are in a transition period and within 5-7 years we will go to tagging. Now the current system would have been much more effective 15 years ago before everybody bought their license on-line and could just print off however many they wanted. The current system would probably be more effective now if you just received your license in the mail , and it was on special paper and you only had one copy. I know people will say that maybe they want to buy their license the same day or don�t want to wait for it in the mail. It wouldn�t be perfect but when you bought it online you could get a confirmation number and that would allow you to hunt immediately without the license, but after like ten days you would be required to have it. I know I have done this before in Florida with a fishing license.
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Do you also want the warden to go hunting with you and hold your hand. Just more big brother government getting involved in every aspect of life. Let me guess yall are all democrats too. Why don't we just let the federal government issue us our deer tags? Why not? The do such a great job with everything else. (Ha Ha) Why would you make that huge jump in your conclusion?? I guess that you trust all people, never lock your doors or put your belongings away, don't have a gate on the property you hunt and leave the keys in all your vehicles with the windows down. I doubt it. Or, you just don't have anything that you have worked for and place value in one!
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Is there a rampant problem with people shooting more than three bucks? If so, since the GWs can not be everywhere, is anyone that has actual knowledge and facts providing that to the GWs? If not, why not? If there are people that are not following the regulations and laws now will a tag system be the panacea that will set them on the straight and narrow?
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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I wish we would go to a 2 buck tag system and have an antler restriction. It drives me crazy to know that I let smaller bucks walk on the wma's and when your loading your stuff in the truck there is hunter after hunter coming out with spikes and fork horns. It would bring the average size of our bucks up and we would start seeing more of them.
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WMA's are public land. If a person is happy shooting a spike, then they should shoot it. Some people only get a weekend or two to hunt. They don't have time to "Trophy Hunt". Not everyone cares for trophy hunting. Some want to shoot what they see. There are still big bucks out there. If you want to shoot larger deer quit being lazy and hunt harder. Dont blame your lack of success on the man that shot a spike. Public land is hunted very hard but the people that put in their time kill big deer.
doecommander out...........................
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Funny thing, you know.....you talking about hunting PUBLIC land.
The same person that does not want Govt. control of his hunting wants to hunt on property supplied by the Govt. LOL
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Funny thing, you know.....you talking about hunting PUBLIC land.
The same person that does not want Govt. control of his hunting wants to hunt on property supplied by the Govt. LOL
I guess you did not read the post before mine. I did not say I hunted public land. I just made an example from the post before. Read up.
doecommander out...........................
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Yeah, I've read them all. You don't like 'The Man' telling you what you can do and what you can't do while you are hunting. You are not alone, though! With the liberal seasons and ridiculously high bag limits that AL has in place.....ANY restrictions (even less than what was in place a mere 10 or 15 yrs ago!) that they impose now are frowned upon and resisted by many of todays hunters. I ain't picking on you! You seem like a good guy!!! It's just the irony of some of the posts that amuses me. 
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I wonder why Georgia did away with tags while so many in Alabama seem to want to start them? Maybe it is because they were needed to help enforce the Laws when they were first implemented, but their neccessity waned as the hunters became more compliant?? Just a thought!
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