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Another topic on this forum inspired me to post these thoughts here. I was very encouraged to see the outpouring of support for one of our fellow members who's dog had been purposely injured by another human being. I have dogs, and I love them just like he loves his and you love yours. Every year, you will see posts on this site threatening to and bragging about shooting someone else dog while they are deer hunting. I have commented on it before and been called names and accused of not being "serious" about deer hunting. Really!?!? Come on!! Serious. What the hell is that? A "serious" deer hunter? Anyways, I know that it is frustrating when a dog comes through the area you are hunting but it is not a big deal. Now before you go off, listen. I'm not talking about deer dogs or deer dog hunting! I'm talking about people's pets. When you live way out in the country like I and many other people do, we let our dogs run loose. That is why I chose to live rurally! No rules, no regulations, so I don't want to hear that 'if you don't want your dog shot, then you had better keep it up. Hell no! I live here, you my friend are just a visitor. Dogs have their daily routine and interacting with deer are part of it. It is just a game they play. So if you are going to hunt around a populated rural area, you need to just learn how to adapt to their environment and play the game with them.
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I'll start. "No rules, no regulations"? I'm afraid that is not true. There are plenty of rules, regardless of where you live.
You represent the other extreme of the dog shooters, the people who think their dog can go anywhere and it's the other guy's problem.
Should people shoot other folks dogs? No! But keep yours on YOUR property.
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That's all well and good but your playing Russian roulette with your dogs life if you let it roam free. I'll be the first to cry about my dogs death if it happens to me but I'll also know that I could have done something to prevent it and not leave it up to the callousness of another.
One thing most old timer, country folk were/are good at is keeping in perspective the animal/human relationship. One of them supersedes the other and most hard core country folk are as matter of fact about it as me writeing it.
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So its ok to shoot "hunting dogs", but don't shoot pets? I don't think any dogs should be shot unless they are threatening you. I would also go on to say that 90% of dogs that do get shot are SSS.
One more thing and I aint being BBA or a big shot. I am really laid back, but If i can ever prove someone shot my dogs "pet" or "hunting dog", I can and will whip the T total sin out of them. On mine or public property
Just my $.02
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there is a big difference in what happened to Hollywuds dog in his NEIGHBORHOOD and what you are talking about.
I own land..it is in the country. I pay every month a mortgage and tax for that land. The whole reason I bought that land is to deer hunt and to manage it in a NO PRESSURE low impact enviroment. My neighbors have done the same. Between 6 of us...we have over 5 THOUSAND acres. We limit our own activity on our own land to keep a managed low impact, low pressure deer population. THAT IS OUR CHOICE FOR OUR LAND!
Just because you buy a 1 ACRE house lot bordering our property DOES NOT give your dog the right to CHASE DEER all over OUR properties. I dont shoot dogs but my neighboring friends that own the rest of the land will shoot them as soon as they see them. And I agree with them.
We see dogs that are over a MILE from any house on our land. If they see them..they kill them. There is also a leash law in our town...your dogs is REQUIRED to be tied or you are in violation.
The attitude of " When you live way out in the country like I and many other people do, we let our dogs run loose. That is why I chose to live rurally! No rules, no regulations" is ludicris and disrespectful to the actual property owners and neighbors! you think because you live in the country your dogs can run all over your neighbors property?????
and this statement is even more offensive: "serious" about deer hunting. Really!?!? Come on!! Serious. What the hell is that? A "serious" deer hunter?
We are serious about managing our THOUSANDS of acres we OWN and PAY TAXES on the way WE WANT! we dont shoot anything but mature bucks and make considerable sacrifice in managing our deer and caring for our property. IT IS NOT YOUR DOGS FREAKIN PARK!
your statements are UTTERLY ridiculous! You dont own the COUNTRY..you live in the country! Keep your dogs on your own land or dont cry when they dont ever come home!
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There is balance with anything. Pets shouldnt be allowed to run free over others properties all the time. Some people hate cats & dogs, some people love them. However at the same time they should be allowed to roam within reason so as not to interfere with a neighbors personal property. I dont know that I could shoot someones domestic pets intending to kill them. I have had dogs ruin a many of hunts for me but never thought once about killing the dog except for the time it was a huge brown dog I though was a deer....good thing he came closer and gave me a better look!
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I own 40 acres here where I live. I'm not keeping my dogs in a fence or on a chain. That's why I bought 40 acres. They have plenty of room to play.
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and this freakin statement is even more ridiculous:
" I live here, you my friend are just a visitor. Dogs have their daily routine and interacting with deer are part of it. It is just a game they play. So if you are going to hunt around a populated rural area, you need to just learn how to adapt to their environment and play the game with them."
A game? are you going to pay the mortgage and taxes on my property??? Ok..you think its a game...but you dont understand the rules! LOL...you think you made the rules...you didnt. PEOPLE SHOOT DOGS THEY SEE running deer all over the property. FACT! you let your dogs run your neighbors property ruining their hunting and sooner or later..your dog WILL NEVER come home.
Personally..I never shoot dogs but people like you piss me off. You have no respect for other people, their property or what they want. You just selfishly think about yourself!
I dont shoot dogs but when I round up someones mongrel on my property I bring them to their house from their tags and they dont like my attitude when I do.
Because I blame the people LIKE you..not your dog..for being stupid ignorant selfish and and all around A HOLE! And I let them know that in a very vocal fashion!
And Id much rather deal with the owner..then punish the dog for the owners stupidity!
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I own 40 acres here where I live. I'm not keeping my dogs in a fence or on a chain. That's why I bought 40 acres. They have plenty of room to play. I understand that hollywud but a lot of people by a 1/2 acre to 1 acre house lots in the country and think the surrounding woods is their pets park. Big difference there then actually owning enough land that your dogs arent running all over other peoples.
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there is a big difference in what happened to Hollywuds dog in his NEIGHBORHOOD and what you are talking about.
I own land..it is in the country. I pay every month a mortgage and tax for that land. The whole reason I bought that land is to deer hunt and to manage it in a NO PRESSURE low impact enviroment. My neighbors have done the same. Between 6 of us...we have over 5 THOUSAND acres. We limit our own activity on our own land to keep a managed low impact, low pressure deer population. THAT IS OUR CHOICE FOR OUR LAND!
Just because you buy a 1 ACRE house lot bordering our property DOES NOT give your dog the right to CHASE DEER all over OUR properties. I dont shoot dogs but my neighboring friends that own the rest of the land will shoot them as soon as they see them. And I agree with them.
We see dogs that are over a MILE from any house on our land. If they see them..they kill them. There is also a leash law in our town...your dogs is REQUIRED to be tied or you are in violation.
The attitude of " When you live way out in the country like I and many other people do, we let our dogs run loose. That is why I chose to live rurally! No rules, no regulations" is ludicris and disrespectful to the actual property owners and neighbors! you think because you live in the country your dogs can run all over your neighbors property?????
and this statement is even more offensive: "serious" about deer hunting. Really!?!? Come on!! Serious. What the hell is that? A "serious" deer hunter?
We are serious about managing our THOUSANDS of acres we OWN and PAY TAXES on the way WE WANT! we dont shoot anything but mature bucks and make considerable sacrifice in managing our deer and caring for our property. IT IS NOT YOUR DOGS FREAKIN PARK!
your statements are UTTERLY ridiculous! You dont own the COUNTRY..you live in the country! Keep your dogs on your own land or dont cry when they dont ever come home! Kinda in the same boat. The times, they are a changin'. I'm not big on dog shootin' especially if it looks like a pet or hunting dog with a collar. Could be a kids pet that is lost or a expensive coon hound. However, the free ranging mutts that hang around for days and those that like to run deer with dogs in a none dog hunting county, might be in trouble. Most folks can tell the those that might need SSS and those that don't. Hollywud's was obviously a family pet, I'm betting he was shot by some juvenile delinquent.
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I have pets that I love. I don't put them on the same level as humans, but I do love them, and because I love them and am responsible for them I keep them in my fenced in yard or on a leash when they are out.
I am not a dog hunter,but I would much rather have a pack of hunting dogs run straight through our property than a roaming house dog milling around. A house dog will lower your chances of seeing a deer long before a GOOD pack of hunting hounds will.
The world needs more people holding deer in pictures,and less people holding cameras in front of mirrors.
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there is a big difference in what happened to Hollywuds dog in his NEIGHBORHOOD and what you are talking about.
I own land..it is in the country. I pay every month a mortgage and tax for that land. The whole reason I bought that land is to deer hunt and to manage it in a NO PRESSURE low impact enviroment. My neighbors have done the same. Between 6 of us...we have over 5 THOUSAND acres. We limit our own activity on our own land to keep a managed low impact, low pressure deer population. THAT IS OUR CHOICE FOR OUR LAND!
Just because you buy a 1 ACRE house lot bordering our property DOES NOT give your dog the right to CHASE DEER all over OUR properties. I dont shoot dogs but my neighboring friends that own the rest of the land will shoot them as soon as they see them. And I agree with them.
We see dogs that are over a MILE from any house on our land. If they see them..they kill them. There is also a leash law in our town...your dogs is REQUIRED to be tied or you are in violation.
The attitude of " When you live way out in the country like I and many other people do, we let our dogs run loose. That is why I chose to live rurally! No rules, no regulations" is ludicris and disrespectful to the actual property owners and neighbors! you think because you live in the country your dogs can run all over your neighbors property?????
and this statement is even more offensive: "serious" about deer hunting. Really!?!? Come on!! Serious. What the hell is that? A "serious" deer hunter?
We are serious about managing our THOUSANDS of acres we OWN and PAY TAXES on the way WE WANT! we dont shoot anything but mature bucks and make considerable sacrifice in managing our deer and caring for our property. IT IS NOT YOUR DOGS FREAKIN PARK!
your statements are UTTERLY ridiculous! You dont own the COUNTRY..you live in the country! Keep your dogs on your own land or dont cry when they dont ever come home! Kinda in the same boat. The times, they are a changin'. I'm not big on dog shootin' especially if it looks like a pet or hunting dog with a collar. Could be a kids pet that is lost or a expensive coon hound. However, the free ranging mutts that hang around for days and those that like to run deer with dogs in a none dog hunting county, might be in trouble. Most folks can tell the those that might need SSS and those that don't. Hollywuds was obviously a family pet, I'm betting he was shot by some juvenile delinquent. Im the same way 2dogs. I cant shoot them...and Ive had them ruin my hunt...over a mile from any house. I just have 3 dogs myself and love animals. And im talking Not just one dog running deer,..but groups of 3 or more coming through chasing deer out of my swamp or a foodplot. However...my neighbors DO NOT tolerate it. Ill see the dogs run towards my neighbors land , Ill hear them shoot..and text them.."get a good buck?" and will get the text back.."no coyotes'. I know what they mean.
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As a responsible dog owner/hunter.....
I would like to ask you to PLEASE keep your pets under control and do not allow them to roam freely on other's property!
I spend THOUSANDS of dollars to track and control my hunting dogs. And, I hunt responsibly on properties that are large enough to allow my dogs to hunt and run legally. In my experience, responsible dog hunters are NOT a problem. It is the constant battle with free-ranging dogs and feral strays that seems to push people over the edge. Unfortunatley, the frustration causes people to lump all dogs/dog activities into one big group.
Please be responsible!
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Were in the same boat OutdoorObsession you have to deal with in Law Co same way I do across the river in Limestone Co these 1/2 acre folks from town that move out think they have a god given right to tromp anywhere they want and let their half breed mutts run and bark all through our properties. Same goes with the Ahole who shoots his pistols shotguns and rifles 500 times right at dark every weekend afternoon. Folks today just are more out of tune with the way it used to be!
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Stupid people like you are the reason dogs get shot. I can't come to you and tell you that your dogs are causing a problem on "MY" property without you having your stupid attitude. The only alternative I have left is to take care of the problem myself. It really pisses me off because I would much rather not have to shoot your dog.
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Were in the same boat OutdoorObsession you have to deal with in Law Co same way I do across the river in Limestone Co these 1/2 acre folks from town that move out think they have a god given right to tromp anywhere they want and let their half breed mutts run and bark all through our properties. Same goes with the Ahole who shoots his pistols shotguns and rifles 500 times right at dark every weekend afternoon. Folks today just are more out of tune with the way it used to be! Exactly the reason I posted "the times they are a changin'" above. Years ago where I live was "the country", I live on the farm my granddaddy bought when his other one was "taken " by TVA for lake Guntersville. He ran cattle when I was younger. If dogs were running his cattle they got the wrath of the model 12, no questions. If he knew it 's was a neighbors dog he MIGHT give them one chance and tell them they better keep their cattle running dogs up. He wouldn't shoot one just walking across the pasture, if it wasn't bothering the cattle. Heck, he burned mine with birdshot for chasin' chickens! Now there's many more families and houses in the area, I'm afraid Mr. Robert's model 12 would stay very busy now and the dog owners wouldn't be very understanding. Good thing the place is row cropped now, don't guess dogs can hurt a tractor or combine.
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I used to have a small 40 lease I hunted. Saw some labs while hunting. Drove around the closest street to the land the next day to see if I could see the labs. I saw them and stopped to tell the owners I saw them while hunting and that they had run deer off. I was immediately accused of hunting to close to a street. It was 325 yards from the closest property line to the field/ powerline. A week later I saw them again. Told them again. Third time I saw them I called a sheriff to file a leash law violation. Upon telling tje officer where the guy lived I found out he was an assistant d.a.!!!! That was during bow season. Fast forward to jan and I'm on the way back from boligee and the landowner calls telling me he just got off the phone with the assistant d.a. and he just informed him I killed his dog...... I was in a different area code!! I get home and call the guy and he tells me he heard me shoot and saw me leave in s vehicle I have never seen. He was asked 3 times by me and supposedly served a warning ( doubt that happened) and unfortunately due to his ignorance/ above the law attitude, he supposedly lost a dog.
Give me bout 15 more minutes, I was dreamin about beavers..........
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As a responsible dog owner/hunter.....
I would like to ask you to PLEASE keep your pets under control and do not allow them to roam freely on other's property!
I spend THOUSANDS of dollars to track and control my hunting dogs. And, I hunt responsibly on properties that are large enough to allow my dogs to hunt and run legally. In my experience, responsible dog hunters are NOT a problem. It is the constant battle with free-ranging dogs and feral strays that seems to push people over the edge. Unfortunatley, the frustration causes people to lump all dogs/dog activities into one big group.
Please be responsible! Great post!!! This is coming from someone that lost a lab that I let run free, ON 40 acres! Everyone on our road knew and loved him. There was a few times that we got calls from people that lived miles from us, telling us they had our dog, but not one single complaint. My dad and I loved that dog, probably too much. Dad told me we needed to get him cut and build a pen. My dumb arse was against both and it ended up costing all of us. I don't know what happened to him. He may be old and gray, living at somebody's house, hit by a car, shot etc. etc. I still miss him, and that was almost 10 years ago. What I do realize now though is this, if he was shot, stolen, hit, whatever, ITS MY FAULT. He woulda never growled at anyone, but what he would have done is climb up on their female and cost them heartache and probably $. Regardless of what happened, I COULD HAVE PREVENTED IT. Wud, I'm sorry for what happened to your dog, but just know from here on out, whatever happens off you're property, you could've prevented. That's just the truth man. I hope you make the right choice about your dog. I'm not even responding to the OP, he needs to be cut from the gene pool himself I think.
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