Aldeer.com Forums Alabama Deer Talk Serious Deer Talk Forum HIgh Fence Hunting

Some of us just prefer free-ranging, non-caged animals as part of the hunting experience. Period.

Without enclosures, where would all the qdm research be done??

Who are food plots and shooting houses for??

OK, Im very opened minded on this subject. this is what I will do. bucksville how about you take me on a hunt at your place for 2days. then I will tell everyone what I think. Pros and cons. i have never been on a hunt in a fenced in place, and I would be lying if I said I didnt want to give it a shot.

I can take you hunting on my place, but it ain't got no high fence on it.

I used to have a family place that was fenced, but I sold it 2002. I have hunted in MANT different high fences and on MANY different free range places and there IS a difference.

The high fence places all had couple things in common. They had better deer and you couldn't tell them from the ones that where out side the fence. They didn't have as many poacher problems and they had the opportunity to let their deer reach their potential growth if that is what the manager wanted.

There you go. Finally someone who will admit that it is not the same as free range hunting.

Nope, not the same, better!!

Depends on what you want and what your standards are as to weather its better or not. If you want it to be easier to kill a larger antlered deer then I am sure that person would say better. I didn't say easy I said easier.

bill,



So, what's your problem with him hunting under his standards on his own land and you doing the same?

I have no problem at all with it. Just don't tell me that there is no difference.

I took a guy that thought like Bill one time on my place. He was giving me a rash of chit about how easy it was to kill a deer in a "pen". He was a good bow hunter with some nice bucks he had arrowed. Not a novice or a goober.

I put him up a tree on the edge of a trail leading into the green field and he shot his whole quiver of arrows before he got a doe shot. He was dealing with 8 or 9 sets of eyes watching him rather than one or two sets.

Our deer where as wild as anybodies deer. They could escape just as easy as any other deer. We NEVER ran em up in the corner to shoot them even though that is what some people think happens.

As far as my "standards", I'd say they are at least as high as yours........... one reason I know that is I don't put down some thing or some one I don't know any thing about.

Well, there it is. Show me where I put you down. Also, I hate to nitpick but the guy you took wasnt doing his own hunting. All he was doing was shooting as you had done the hunting for him. I am having a hard time figuring out why someone would fence their property based on the things the proponents are saying. Most say it is to control and grow bigger deer but then I'm told that the hunting is the same with no better chance to kill a big deer. Then im told the hunting is actually harder and that an accomplished bow hunter has to shoot 8 or 9 times just to kill a doe because the deer are so plentiful and smart in high fences. So I guess people are fencing properties to make out more of a challenge to kill deer? I dont care how or why you hunt but dont keep trying to sale me on how superior and more difficult pen hunting is.

GEEZ

Bill, I don't think anybody is trying to sell you anything. All I'm saying is that for people (you or anybody else) to say is like shooting fish in a barrel or it shooting cows are obviously people that know nothing about it. Like I said earlier. There are some people that have even claimed it was like being gay, or even like being a deviate or some thing.

It's just a way to better manage your deer and allow them to get old enough to see what they will make. If a guy has several thousand acres, you don't really need a fence to do that or if you have good neighbors that use the same standards of management you like, you don't need a fence, and really you don't NEED a fence at all, but it is legal to do. It is also not "wrong or lazy or gay or sorry or crazy or immoral or sub standard" to do it.

I don't like Volvo's but any one that drives one is not a goober.

Been huntin' High fences and open range. Personally, I like the fences. Get to go home with nicer deer and racks, and it feels a lot safer without poachin' morons and a public free for all. Just need to have 5-10,000 acres fenced so its just like being open range. Then the experience is the same.

I think you are allowing your emotions to cloud your perception of what has been said. I haven't said that it makes it easy or that those who do it are any less of a hunter on animals that are free range. I have only said that it is different. Those that would not hunt in a fence have been told everything from it is the same to it is much harder. I have not seen anyone say that it should be illegal or that it is unethical. Those are things that the pro high fence guys have accused us of saying when it simply has not happened. Also, it is pretty clear to me that Mark was not saying high fence hunters are gay. He was making a point saying you dont have to try something to know it is not something you would like. I can say for sure that the high fence hunters posting in this thread are a very defensive lot.

If there is nothing sub standard about shooting a deer behind a fence, why can they not be entered into the Boone and Crockett record book?

Does P&Y allow more than a 60% let off on bows now? Lighted pins on the sight? Just saying that some of the "official" organizations might have their own agenda. If it's legal do it. IMO!

Not really a good argument. Why does b&c deduct score for antler the deer grew that is not perfectly symmetrical?