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Freak of Nature
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What is appealing to some may not be to others. If it makes you happy and it is legal you should do it.
I too, would go on a guided small mouth fishing trip in a heart beat. I love to catch em but not enough to put in the time and effort to do it all on my own.
Hunting mature Bucks is something totally different for me. It is a competiotion with me. A Competition between me and the deer. It is something that developed over time, with me, and I would not get as much joy out of killing a 190" deer in Illinois on a guided hunt as I do with killing a 140" deer in Alabama doing my own hunting.
There is nothing wrong with doing it either way and everyone should hunt to their own standards but don't lump it all together and try to tell me that it is all the same.
It should be legal to fence, guide, and feed deer in any manner a person chooses and the only limitations to those things should be put in place by the law makers and the practicing individuals conscience and self imposed standards.
If you are hunting for the right reasons and by your own conscience you should not care weather me or anyone else thinks your style of hunting or your trophy is a big accomplishment.
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate" Bama_Earl
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bill most people that say they wouldn't get as excited about a 190 in Illinois because a guided hunt or high fence have no clue what it feels like to harvest such an animal. I took such deer this year and have killed 4 deer between 130 to 145 in alabama and while i was estactic about those a 190inch buck is a freak of nature seldom seen by hunters and harvested by less than 3% of all hunters.
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Your wrong, but whatever. What may make you happy would do nothing for me.
Last edited by bill; 12/26/10 06:17 PM.
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate" Bama_Earl
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I think I'd like hunting with Bill. Well said, Bill.
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The deer on our farm is more tame than the deer on the high fenced ranch in Texas I hunted.
All high fenced properties are not created equal.
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The deer on our farm is more tame than the deer on the high fenced ranch in Texas I hunted.
All high fenced properties are not created equal. But, we have evidence provided by SEVERAL people who have never actually set foot inside of a High Fenced Hunting Area that say the deer are all tame and will eat out of your hand. What makes you think we will believe someone who has actually been in one????? 
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The deer on our farm is more tame than the deer on the high fenced ranch in Texas I hunted.
All high fenced properties are not created equal. But, we have evidence provided by SEVERAL people who have never actually set foot inside of a High Fenced Hunting Area that say the deer are all tame and will eat out of your hand. What makes you think we will believe someone who has actually been in one????? I hear that crap all the time from people who have never set foot on a well managed "High Fence" area. Frankly, I chalk those comments up to ignorance.
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I hear that crap all the time from people who have never set foot on a well managed "High Fence" area.
Frankly, I chalk those comments up to ignorance. I've never done meth, and I don't plan to try it. I've never slept with a man, and I don't plan to try it. I've never fried bacon naked, and I don't plan to try it. I've never hunted caged animals, and I don't plan to try it. If they can't leave, it's a pen ... that is all.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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I hear that crap all the time from people who have never set foot on a well managed "High Fence" area.
Frankly, I chalk those comments up to ignorance. I've never done meth, and I don't plan to try it. I've never slept with a man, and I don't plan to try it. I've never fried bacon naked, and I don't plan to try it. I've never hunted caged animals, and I don't plan to try it. If they can't leave, it's a pen ... that is all. Well, since it's been well-established that boundaries are the problem.....and the size of the 'pen' doesn't matter..........you better go ahead and quit; cause I ain't heard of any mass exodus of deer swimming the Ocean! Fleeing for miles is NOT a normal escape tactic of whitetailed deer. Nor is 'leaving'. If they 'leave' one property that is hunted, they just wind up on another! It ain't like they keep plat books handy anyway.....LOL They normally hide right under most hunters (including myself) noses.
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Well, why fence em then? You said they dont leave which leads me to believe the deer on adjoining properties wont leave either. should be no reason to fence animals that dont leave your property.
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate" Bama_Earl
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As I have already said several times, most fences are to fence OUT the 'unwanteds' and enhance the control of the animals harvested......not the other way around.
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I have an Uncle that has recently high fenced his property his reasoning is he purchased over 500 acres of land paid biologist from Auburn to decide best management tatics for property planted for ten years and the worthless people around the property would pull up on the side of the road and turn their dogs loose on his property several times a week according to the guy that oversees the property so after all those years of money and management he put a stop to it
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Speaking of pens, I know of a 150 acre former fox pen with an 10ft fence. The deer there are all but impossible to kill unless you drive them out. They can't get out due to the apron on top that will not allow them to jump out once they jump in.
Nothing at all "tame" about those deer.
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No doubt though, there are many pens out there that have deer with tags in their ears and so forth.
As I said, not all are created equal.
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swamper i agree with you on everything you have said on here. Seems you know your subject well.
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You guys do realize that there is a difference between a breeder pen, and a high fence hunting operation don't you? Those deer with those tags in there ears in that little 3 acre enclosure? Those are breeder deer in a breeder pen. They aren't hunted, they are bred. And most of them are worth a whole lot more money as breeders than as shooters. There are several breeders in this state that have breeder pens but don't have high fence operations. They make their living buying/selling/trading deer and semen. And there are a lot of high fence hunting operations that do no breeding, and have no breeding pens or breeding stock.
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You are somwhat right snapper. I worked in a 1,200 acre high fence ranch and when the first fawns started to drop we would get all the guides ans staff and try to catch and tag all the fawns we could. The reason we did this is so whille hunting if you saw one of them you could age it based on the color of tag. We could't even come close to tagging all the fawns but it gave us a starting point.
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Are you saying there aren't any small fenced pens that allow shooting? In this state or anywhere else?
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate" Bama_Earl
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Enough semen can be collected off the buck, to continue to breed 100 years after it is dead and gone. There are just window dressing. And once they hit a certain point of lower value they are placed as a shooter buck.
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You guys do realize that there is a difference between a breeder pen, and a high fence hunting operation don't you? Those deer with those tags in there ears in that little 3 acre enclosure? Been in more than one "breeder" pen. Big difference. However, you'd be amazed how many deer are killed every year in pens less than 10 acres. Money talks
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