The 6.0 problems ford had stemmed from the government giving them the new emissions standards and telling them they had 4mths to make the change. They were ill prepared and changing from a tried and true, probably one of the best desil engines ever made, the 7.3, they failed at first. But they have gotten a really good product out of the 6.7. One thing people need to realize is that the emissions are what has caused all the problems. I manage a shop that works on many brands, cummins, paccar, CAT, Isuzu, Hino. I see the same types of problems with all if them. They are all improving though. The entire EGR system requirements would prevent me from purchasing a desil for an everyday driver unless you need it. Your putting raw exhaust back into the engine. Everything from the turbo, EGR valve, EGR coolers and air to air coolers turn black and get covered in oily soot just so that 18in piece of tailpipe behind the DPF is clean. I'm not saying don't buy one but in my opinion they are disposable motors. Another thing to be aware of is repair costs. The way these new systems work, one failed component can cause a chain reaction down the line and take out multiple other components. As an example on some models now, a fuel injector that are overfuelling can cause the exhaust temps to get too high and causing temps in the DPF to get too high burning up the DPF and temp sensors. So you would be looking at a new DPF, set of injectors and temp sensors. A new DPF can run anywhere from $1500 - $4000. Injectors anywere from $500-$1000 each. Add labor to all of this and you are looking at a chunk of change. I've seen this happen several times on a single truck before while it is in warranty then happen again after the warranty is out. All of this happen on a truck thats not even paid for. If this happens when the truck is under warranty consider yourself lucky. If it happens after warranty is up, you could be looking at a $5000+ repair costs. I work for a dealer so I'm not really up to date on what the aftermarket has came up with to combat the common problems. Whatever make you go with I would be sure to get the extended warranty offered. It will pay for itself because you will have problems. Plus the manufacturers tend to help those who buy them more than those who don't. Lets say the extended warranty costs $4k. The turbo lasts all the way through that time and fails 2wks after it runs out of the warranty period. That turbo msy cost $1500-$3000 + labor. There is a really good chance that you can get some type of help from the manufacture, wheather it is parts and labor or just parts. If you opted out of the extended warranty their prob not going to help at all. I've been out of the retail side for 2yrs after 10yrs at a ford dealer. my insight now comes from commercial trucks. They are 2 totally different businesses but still share a lot of parallels when it comes to how they handle problems. Follow your maintenance guide to a T. Do some things more often. IE fuel filters. Learn to do them yourself to save money and do then often. Fuel problems are the most common problems I see. I've had trucks towed hundreds of miles to me and we replace the fuel filters which fixes the truck. All this takes place while the truck is still in warranty. Replacing fuel filters is not a warrantable failure so the entire repair and towbill goes back to the customer. I'll close with this. You can get a good truck from any of the manufactures, but make sure you have a nice account with a decent balance for when something breaks.
Last edited by BPS; 07/01/13 05:35 AM.
