Originally Posted By: Rebelman
Is this for every lease or just one they allow camping on? Is 'litter' defined? Is one beer can or a case of beer cans $500. Are they going to refund your deposit each and every year or will it carry over if you continue to lease?

I have no affiliation with Westervelt but I am sure there is a reason behind this other than keeping a club's $500. It is probably aimed more at passing environmental audits. The deposit is just a way to motivate the hunters to clean up after themselves. Honestly, I see it difficult to enforce.



There is no definition of what would be enough litter for them to keep the $500. And this is not for a camp site; the minimum deposit for a camp site will now be $1000, and the area manager can charge more if he wants.

This is just the fee for a simple little 80 acre lease. And it is an 8 yr old pine plantation that we never set foot on the past hunting season; just used it for a sanctuary and tried to shoot deer when they come off it. The only reason I leased it was because I knew if somebody else did they would surround the borders with tree stands that would be watching our land. There's nowhere else on it to put a tree stand except the borders. It is right behind a house and the folks that lived there have dumped garbage on it for years.

I will try to talk to them and get an exception, but having dealt with them before, I doubt it will work. Westervelt is pretty bureaucratic, and I suspect a rule is gonna be a rule. The thing is, they know if I don't lease it somebody else will. If you don't own land, you have no control; just the way it is.

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