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I surely hope your not referring to me?
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I surely hope your not referring to me? No I wasn't...didn't mean to imply that.
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin
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It will come to light sooner or later if the kill is not on the "up & up".
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I certainly don't want to get into all this but, reading this thread is better than watching Jason Bourne!
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Damn, I'm more impressed with John's buck with a bow! Strong work! Thanks fold. That was my first bow buck. You suck LOL! All kidding aside, fine deer! I saw pics of it last year that were viral. Made me jealous! After seeing this I believe I will think twice if I every shoot a deer of that caliber here in AL. I don't know the hunter, but I know a lot of people who hunt in that area. Some of them, who have jobs similar to this fellow, have a reputation for bending the rules. I can see that's where the suspicion comes from. Why those employers havent taken charge and put a stop to it is beyond me. It's a wonder someone hasn't been shot by now. But most of those guys are law abiding hunters and follow the rules, and are dang fine people! I've had a lot of people ask me if I thought it was legal and I feel its my responsibility as a hunter to stand up for the guy unless someone comes forward with hard proof that it wasn't.
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Damn, I'm more impressed with John's buck with a bow! Strong work! Thanks fold. That was my first bow buck. You suck LOL! All kidding aside, fine deer! I saw pics of it last year that were viral. Made me jealous! After seeing this I believe I will think twice if I every shoot a deer of that caliber here in AL. I don't know the hunter, but I know a lot of people who hunt in that area. Some of them, who have jobs similar to this fellow, have a reputation for bending the rules. I can see that's where the suspicion comes from. Why those employers havent taken charge and put a stop to it is beyond me. It's a wonder someone hasn't been shot by now. But most of those guys are law abiding hunters and follow the rules, and are dang fine people! I've had a lot of people ask me if I thought it was legal and I feel its my responsibility as a hunter to stand up for the guy unless someone comes forward with hard proof that it wasn't. WOW didn't know mine went viral. 15 min of fame. Was mine debated like this and I didn't hear about it? But other than what i have already stated i do not have any proof for legal/illegal accusations. I am just getting different stories now and they don't match pictures I have been seeing!
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I got a neighbor that has killed some really good bucks. I'm talking 120 to 140 class bucks and I know for a fact that he killed them at night. He kills several bucks a year but all the big boys he has killed he has killed at night. He don't go out driving around, he walks out of his house and shines his spotlight across the field in his back yard. In my opinion he thinks he is a great hunter because he has killed these big bucks but of all the big bucks he has killed he has killed them all at night. It is a lot easier to see the big ones with a spot light than in the daylight. That sure ain't hunting if you ask me. I feel your pain jon. I have the same situation where I hunt. The GW and everyone else knows what he is doing but just cant catch him. Someday he will get his.
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I got a neighbor that has killed some really good bucks. I'm talking 120 to 140 class bucks and I know for a fact that he killed them at night. He kills several bucks a year but all the big boys he has killed he has killed at night. He don't go out driving around, he walks out of his house and shines his spotlight across the field in his back yard. In my opinion he thinks he is a great hunter because he has killed these big bucks but of all the big bucks he has killed he has killed them all at night. It is a lot easier to see the big ones with a spot light than in the daylight. That sure ain't hunting if you ask me. I feel your pain jon. I have the same situation where I hunt. The GW and everyone else knows what he is doing but just cant catch him. Someday he will get his. That is exactly what I'm talking about. A few years ago my boy and the game warden's boy played on the same baseball team. Well the game warden got to asking me a lot of questions about this guy and I didn't feel it was my place to rat him out. We the game warden told me I might as well tell him because the man's brother has done told him everything. I told the game warden that if he done knew everything then he needed to go catch him. I mean this guy will kill a big buck and come by the house and say hey look what I got last night. Talk about improving your chances of killing a good buck, just go shine a spotlight. Tis guy will even hunt on Ito febuary. Darndest thing I have ever seen.
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I got a neighbor that has killed some really good bucks. I'm talking 120 to 140 class bucks and I know for a fact that he killed them at night. He kills several bucks a year but all the big boys he has killed he has killed at night. He don't go out driving around, he walks out of his house and shines his spotlight across the field in his back yard. In my opinion he thinks he is a great hunter because he has killed these big bucks but of all the big bucks he has killed he has killed them all at night. It is a lot easier to see the big ones with a spot light than in the daylight. That sure ain't hunting if you ask me. I feel your pain jon. I have the same situation where I hunt. The GW and everyone else knows what he is doing but just cant catch him. Someday he will get his. That is exactly what I'm talking about. A few years ago my boy and the game warden's boy played on the same baseball team. Well the game warden got to asking me a lot of questions about this guy and I didn't feel it was my place to rat him out. We the game warden told me I might as well tell him because the man's brother has done told him everything. I told the game warden that if he done knew everything then he needed to go catch him. I mean this guy will kill a big buck and come by the house and say hey look what I got last night. Talk about improving your chances of killing a good buck, just go shine a spotlight. Tis guy will even hunt on Ito febuary. Darndest thing I have ever seen. Sorry inojon, no sympathy here, if I had a neighbor killing deer at night, into Feb. bringing them by, rubbing it in my face, he'd be caught.
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It is much easier to just complain on the internet than actually DO anything, though.....
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Let's see.....this deer was shot in the afternoon and found the next day....ok
there's a night picture of a fresh kill with him in street clothes....then theres a day picture of a deer that has already begun to swell (happens a few hours after death) with him in camo...
So with this situation, I am guessing the deer was either shot in the afternoon, found the next day and pics taken...then on the way to the taxidermist that night, it went all "Tommy Boy" on us and arose from the dead, and was killed again, and thats where the fresh kill pics at night come from......OR, the guys a poacher......im torn at what to believe!
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Orvill reddenbocker......extra butter and salt please.... 
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I'm not one to jump to conclusions one way or another about things like this, but there is enough skepticism being brought up to make you wonder. The only hard evidence we have to go on is the pictures. The nighttime picture seems to be from a cell phone, so the quality isn't great. The first thing that stands out to me is that in the nighttime picture, the deer's body is angled towards the camera and his head is twisted around to face the camera. If the deer was shot at night and found the next morning and the nighttime picture was taken the night after that, then the deer had been dead for over 24 hours. Seems to me that with rigor mortis all set in, you wouldn't be able to twist a deer's head back around like that because he would be too stiff, especially a buck with as big of a neck as that. Comparing the pictures, the deer does seem to have been dead longer in the day time picture, but who knows. I wish the quality of the night picture was better and showed more of the deer.
Last edited by dixiehunter308; 02/13/13 12:39 AM.
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Also, I just noticed that in the nighttime picture the deer's ears seem to be drooping down. In the day time picture, they are angled higher up. It may just be the angle, but I don't think that deer had stiffened up based on what we can see in the nighttime pics. Seems to be a relatively fresh kill.
I hope he killed it legally though. And I hope we find out the truth about it sooner or later. I feel bad adding to the skepticism, but the pictures are the only real evidence to go on.
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The people who originally received the pics should be able to go to the pics properties and see when and where it was taken.
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I got a neighbor that has killed some really good bucks. I'm talking 120 to 140 class bucks and I know for a fact that he killed them at night. He kills several bucks a year but all the big boys he has killed he has killed at night. He don't go out driving around, he walks out of his house and shines his spotlight across the field in his back yard. In my opinion he thinks he is a great hunter because he has killed these big bucks but of all the big bucks he has killed he has killed them all at night. It is a lot easier to see the big ones with a spot light than in the daylight. That sure ain't hunting if you ask me. I feel your pain jon. I have the same situation where I hunt. The GW and everyone else knows what he is doing but just cant catch him. Someday he will get his. That is exactly what I'm talking about. A few years ago my boy and the game warden's boy played on the same baseball team. Well the game warden got to asking me a lot of questions about this guy and I didn't feel it was my place to rat him out. We the game warden told me I might as well tell him because the man's brother has done told him everything. I told the game warden that if he done knew everything then he needed to go catch him. I mean this guy will kill a big buck and come by the house and say hey look what I got last night. Talk about improving your chances of killing a good buck, just go shine a spotlight. Tis guy will even hunt on Ito febuary. Darndest thing I have ever seen. Sorry inojon, no sympathy here, if I had a neighbor killing deer at night, into Feb. bringing them by, rubbing it in my face, he'd be caught. Sorry 2dogs if you think I'm looking for sympathy you missed my point. All I'm saying is how can someone think they are the Great White Hunter when the only mountable bucks that he kills he has killed at night.
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I got a neighbor that has killed some really good bucks. I'm talking 120 to 140 class bucks and I know for a fact that he killed them at night. He kills several bucks a year but all the big boys he has killed he has killed at night. He don't go out driving around, he walks out of his house and shines his spotlight across the field in his back yard. In my opinion he thinks he is a great hunter because he has killed these big bucks but of all the big bucks he has killed he has killed them all at night. It is a lot easier to see the big ones with a spot light than in the daylight. That sure ain't hunting if you ask me. I feel your pain jon. I have the same situation where I hunt. The GW and everyone else knows what he is doing but just cant catch him. Someday he will get his. That is exactly what I'm talking about. A few years ago my boy and the game warden's boy played on the same baseball team. Well the game warden got to asking me a lot of questions about this guy and I didn't feel it was my place to rat him out. We the game warden told me I might as well tell him because the man's brother has done told him everything. I told the game warden that if he done knew everything then he needed to go catch him. I mean this guy will kill a big buck and come by the house and say hey look what I got last night. Talk about improving your chances of killing a good buck, just go shine a spotlight. Tis guy will even hunt on Ito febuary. Darndest thing I have ever seen. Sorry inojon, no sympathy here, if I had a neighbor killing deer at night, into Feb. bringing them by, rubbing it in my face, he'd be caught. Sorry 2dogs if you think I'm looking for sympathy you missed my point. All I'm saying is how can someone think they are the Great White Hunter when the only mountable bucks that he kills he has killed at night. I think you missed his point. He is simply saying that the only reason you have to put up with your neighbor doing what he does is because you let it continue to happen. From the way you have described the situation you ought to have enough information and evidence to turn him in to your local CO who could put a stop to it. If you are not willing to do that then he is just saying you'll get no sympathy here. At least that is the way I interpreted it. 
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I got a neighbor that has killed some really good bucks. I'm talking 120 to 140 class bucks and I know for a fact that he killed them at night. He kills several bucks a year but all the big boys he has killed he has killed at night. He don't go out driving around, he walks out of his house and shines his spotlight across the field in his back yard. In my opinion he thinks he is a great hunter because he has killed these big bucks but of all the big bucks he has killed he has killed them all at night. It is a lot easier to see the big ones with a spot light than in the daylight. That sure ain't hunting if you ask me. I feel your pain jon. I have the same situation where I hunt. The GW and everyone else knows what he is doing but just cant catch him. Someday he will get his. That is exactly what I'm talking about. A few years ago my boy and the game warden's boy played on the same baseball team. Well the game warden got to asking me a lot of questions about this guy and I didn't feel it was my place to rat him out. We the game warden told me I might as well tell him because the man's brother has done told him everything. I told the game warden that if he done knew everything then he needed to go catch him. I mean this guy will kill a big buck and come by the house and say hey look what I got last night. Talk about improving your chances of killing a good buck, just go shine a spotlight. Tis guy will even hunt on Ito febuary. Darndest thing I have ever seen. Sorry inojon, no sympathy here, if I had a neighbor killing deer at night, into Feb. bringing them by, rubbing it in my face, he'd be caught. Sorry 2dogs if you think I'm looking for sympathyyou missed my point. All I'm saying is how can someone think they are the Great White Hunter when the only mountable bucks that he kills he has killed at night. I think you missed his point. He is simply saying that the only reason you have to put up with your neighbor doing what he does is because you let it continue to happen. From the way you have described the situation you ought to have enough information and evidence to turn him in to your local CO who could put a stop to it. If you are not willing to do that then he is just saying you'll get no sympathy here. At least that is the way I interpreted it. You are correct,sir.
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Also, deer in night pic does not "appear" to have been rained on yet.
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