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What's the over/under on 15 pages? How many bans?
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For those that say it can't be done, I am old enough to remember when south Montgomery (Woodley Rd area) had monster bucks. Lots of soybeans planted back then in that area and they had BIG bucks. We might not grow 200 in deer but we could dang sure improve alot over what we have now.
Bill hit the nail on the head. And like he said, I am not in favor of this. Just stating the facts.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Go to a DMAP system where each property/club/co-op can be managed on its own merit. Hasn't that been revived again? And isn't one of the Commissioner's planned proposals, to be discussed this Saturday at the CAB meeting, to have a better data-gathering method through a tagging and/or tele-check system? Not sure... I haven't stayed in the loop like I did in the past.
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I am Cornholio
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Corn 
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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"What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State"
My response would be, "Why would you want to turn AL into a trophy state?"
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"What can we do....."
Require every landowner to plant 50% of their property in soybeans. About the best answer you can have!
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For those that say it can't be done, I am old enough to remember when south Montgomery (Woodley Rd area) had monster bucks. Lots of soybeans planted back then in that area and they had BIG bucks. We might not grow 200 in deer but we could dang sure improve alot over what we have now.
Bill hit the nail on the head. And like he said, I am not in favor of this. Just stating the facts. Barry - what were the season limits back then? I didn't grow up hunting in Alabama, so I don't know.
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" - D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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My response would be, "Why would you want to turn AL into a trophy state?"
Almost word for word what I said.
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High fence the whole state.
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For those that say it can't be done, I am old enough to remember when south Montgomery (Woodley Rd area) had monster bucks. Lots of soybeans planted back then in that area and they had BIG bucks. We might not grow 200 in deer but we could dang sure improve alot over what we have now.
Bill hit the nail on the head. And like he said, I am not in favor of this. Just stating the facts. Barry - what were the season limits back then? I didn't grow up hunting in Alabama, so I don't know. We had a certain number of "Doe Days" and a buck a day.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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I just put the question up to see how alot of people felt , I hear people say why dont we do things like MS we are always behind in regulations etc My only complaint would be to somehow get these 2-3 year old bucks into there next stage and by that I mean the ages that their antlers really take off , I know to some extent its laying off the trigger but i feel like only a small percentage of hunters do that , I would like to see timber companies help improve wildlife habitat even if that means passing the price on thru lease prices , i feel we would have more healthy deer and turkeys and also help quail . I think the 3 buck rule has done wonders and we will continue to see it payoff in years to come .
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Two week gun season before or after the rut.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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WmHunter, I know the soil/food/deer is different in the Midwest and North but believe you missed my point.
The statement was made that Alabama has too many poachers, therefore poachers are the reason bucks can't get to 'trophy' size.
The six states I listed all have poachers that shoot bucks. I'd argue that our Bama poachers, and we have plenty, no doubt, are not the reason we don't have 'trophy' bucks "like other states."
ok, gotcha. sorry for missing your point. I agree.
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Blessed, you just have to keep preaching and practicing QDM and that is all you can do. You cannot force it on people and we certainly don't want more government involvement than there already is. Trying to get bucks into the older age brackets begins with what we do ourselves on the territory that we have control over, and of course the same goes for habitat management. Even then, as I said upstream, you are never going to see the same percentage of 4.5 or 5.5 year old bucks in Alabama get to (much less exceed) the 150 mark as in the Midwest. That is just the way it is - unless there was a massive agricultural revolution.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Your right WmHunter its all about educating people I had to learn growing as a hunter in my early years and have since became more educated in later years and enjoy trying to make better fields , help natural browse and soil management .
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Your right WmHunter its all about educating people I agree, as long as the "education" involves accurate information. I honestly believe that for much of AL, the problem isn't getting bucks into the older age-classes, it is getting hunters to understand that most AL land won't grow large antlers on even mature bucks. Up in TN, one of the biggest problems I run into with "educating" hunters is getting them to understand that even if they do produce mature bucks, most of those mature bucks are only going to grow 110-120 antlers. Most Southeastern hunters have been watching too many hunting shows filmed in the Midwest, were bucks grow 20 to 30 more inches of antler than same-age bucks in the Southeast.
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Completely do away with dog hunting!They have no time to look at a buck and age it. Just shoot whatever runs out with horns.
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Why not just travel to one of those States to hunt....or, heck, even MOVE there.
Just leave me and my hunting alone!!!
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First we'd need a fleet of helicopters with spreaders attached.
There are about 33.5 million acres in Alabama. We'd need to spread 67 million tons of lime for the first two years, then again at least every other year.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Gotta do soil samples first, Fur. Here's your 55-gallon drum.
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