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pulled the Ronald Reagen card!!


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Old Mossy Horns
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Wants CONGRESS to require universal background checks. Also wants CONGRESS to reinstate assault weapons and hi-cap magazines of more than 10-rounds.


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much to do about nothing...

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He respects hunters and sport shooters and self defense carry....cough/BS/cough


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His polished wording sounds good, even to conservative gun owners....safety, keeping crimnals away, etc...but it is the 'how" and the actual regs that are written that will be the issue.


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So if we complain, we are just wacko fear mongers...nice


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Setting up the House elections for 2 years from now....setting the stage for Dems to retake house.


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Originally Posted By: straycat
Setting up the House elections for 2 years from now....setting the stage for Dems to retake house.


You got it.

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How will a ban actually stop other killings? Firearms already exist. Just making use of a crisis for their agenda.

Push for a vote, for when it fails, they will use it 2 years from now against the no votes.


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Originally Posted By: straycat
Setting up the House elections for 2 years from now....setting the stage for Dems to retake house.


Yup.

It will pass the Senate and fail in the House, giving Dems ammo for 2014


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Didn't he say that he had 23 executive orders? He has not mentioned one yet. He has called on congress to pass legislation. I am guessing his Executive orders are the bill he signs and we won't them until he signs it.


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Here are the EO's. Very little substance behind any of these. We will have to see what Congress is able to get passed.

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

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Responsibilities? How bout the gov't staying out of the way?


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This sumbitch is taking no prisoners. Playing the "gun lobby and making money" card as to why groups opposing gun bans

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so IF you have a gun on sale in the classifieds, will you need to have it sold before he signs these EOs


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Quoted the Preamble to the Constitution... then talking about how Constitutional Rights have been denied because of the Second Amendment...


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Rights were also denied those faculty, staff, or other students who could not carry a gun at Va. Tech or at Sandy Hook Elem. 2nd Am. was restricted for them and they died without a way to protect themselves. But this side of the coin is not spoken on BECAUSE it does not fit their agenda.


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Originally Posted By: Jpipererp
so IF you have a gun on sale in the classifieds, will you need to have it sold before he signs these EOs


His EOs dont mean shucks. Sell away....

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Originally Posted By: Jpipererp
so IF you have a gun on sale in the classifieds, will you need to have it sold before he signs these EOs


No he is wanting congress to enact universal background checks.


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Now we wait to see what the EOs really are.


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"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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