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I killed a 4.5 year old in Wilcox Co in 1974 er so , along the river next to Roy Childers place. I thought he would go easy 140, shot him at 95 yards in a BIG hardwood flat. Rack scored 115, deer weighed 130.
Worse, I killed gobbler with an 10.25 inch beard, 1" spurs that live weighed 12.5 pounds.....in Greene Co. He was not skinny, just small like my wife ran him three times in the dryer like my shirts she likes.... Pretty country on Childers place - planted some trees for them last year. RE gobbler, killed one this year that had standard 10" beard and 1" spurs but everything else was small - frame, breast, tail feathers, wing feathers, head, short legs, and weighed all of about 13-14 lbs. ...it happens! we used to have a couple of places near Oak Hill and Pineapple. all of the birds we killed were under 16 pounds, one at 13lbs15oz, 10" beard and 1" spurs.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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So in y'alls did this deer still have the body characteristics of a mature deer?
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer."
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So in y'alls did this deer still have the body characteristics of a mature deer? Definitely has the body of a mature deer. He's just small.
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GREAT looking Macon Co. buck!!!
On the age-
I would have to say at least 3.5 y/o, possibly 4.5. I had trouble coming to that conclusion, based just on the teeth he could be a 3.5 year old. No way, no how is he older than 4.5 y/o though. Here's how/why:
3rd premolar is bicuspid = at least 2.5
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1st molar (4th tooth)
Dentine equal to or wider than enamel? Wider. = at least 3.5
2nd molar (5th tooth)
Dentine equal to or wider than enamel? Looks almost equal, but the deer is starting to show a little wear on 1st molar, where dentine is wider and not just equal to enamel. = 4.5
To qualify as "mature" adult (4.5 years +), the dentine (brown part) on the second molar (5th tooth) must be as wide or wider than enamel (white part) on the lingual (tongue-side) crest of the tooth. Deer in this category usually start to show a "dished out" look to the molars. His 1st molar doesn't look flat, but you can tell it's significantly worn compared to the 2nd and 3rd molar, which hints that he could be 4.5.
To be 5.5 - the dentine on the 2nd molar (5th tooth) would have to be obviously wider than the enamel, and the 1st molar (3rd tooth) would be much flatter, like a shallow dish.
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Worse, I killed gobbler with an 10.25 inch beard, 1" spurs that live weighed 12.5 pounds.....in Greene Co. He was not skinny, just small like my wife ran him three times in the dryer like my shirts she likes.... You sure that was a gobbler and not a rooster? 
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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i'm gonna say 3.5-4.5 yrs old. sometimes it's even harder to go by the jaw bone cause deer are like humans if you notice when you eat sometime you chew more on one side than you do the other and deer also do the same. so one side might be wore down more than the other side
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So in y'alls did this deer still have the body characteristics of a mature deer? Without a doubt. Looking at the velvet pics and what he was when killed, I would have to say that the scars and wounds you mention are probably the cause of the weight loss. The velvet pics appear to be heavier than his live weight at death.
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