Maker bullets produces bullets that perform at subsonic velocities very well. You need to load your own ammo to use them as I'm not aware of any loaded ammo with their bullets.
The Hornady 190 gr Sub X bullet is very accurate in my 308 loaded to 1060 fps out to 100 yards. Never shot a deer with them and I've read that their performance on critters is inconsistent. Just started load work with a 168 gr Maker Sub bullet and it's been more difficult to find an accurate load than with the Sub X.
