Aldeer.com Forums Alabama Deer Talk Aldeer General Forum 300,000 lbs of discount beef - Trump

Don’t forget during Covid all the bottlenecks in the system. Guys I know went from lows to all time highs in just the past 6 years. Like one fellow said, after 40 years I finally paid off my cow herd 😂

The custom markets seems to be pretty strong at the moment. I’m getting interested in buying some large freezers for beef and pork and buying halves

BIL is wanting to get in the game, he’s too old but doesn’t wanna miss out.
When he gets in look for prices to drop. He always goes in at the top off the market 😝

Trump isn’t just saying he will reduce tariffs on beef imports, he’s setting the price (25% below market), specifying the product (ground beef) and controlling the quantity (300 tons). It’s central planning, but it won’t incentivize US ranchers to expand. https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/2091137777110753387

Calf prices are another reason herds are not being rebuilt.
Like one old fellow said I’ve never sold a calf for $2800 so I’m selling all my calves. He was telling everyone in the waiting room that would listen. Hard not to hear him from all his excitement.

BIL has Ben talking about it for several years so I’ve been asking friends that have cow herds. One fellow told me about his cousin that sold off his calves late summer and was almost half a million. It wasn’t as many calves as I would’ve thought to bring that price. He’s running around 1000 head.
Even talked to a former member on here for several hours about it

Everything is stupidly priced. Fencing is ridiculous, everything associated is.

Replacements are being sold off because of the high prices they bring.

I hold back replacement heifers, just put four in a pasture to be bred this fall yesterday. Have 10 more that im holding back right now. One guy in a waiting room , doesn't make up the industry. Neither does one guy pisting on a forum! Its complex. But no matter what you think the reason is, the solution is not buying from other countries, and its not having the government set the prices!

People like to point out what others did when the market was high. What did people do when the market was low? Buy more cattle and expand the herd? Thays retarded! Diesel fuel is as high as its ever been, wanna talk about that. Instead of buying beef from another country and selling it for 25% less, maybe fix your own eff up , and sell Diesel fuel to american farmers and ranchers at $1 a gallon, or how about putting a cost share in the farm bill, anyone who buys or holds back a replacement heifer gets half their money refunded? See those things would help build the AMERICAN herd, not help other countries. Im not for any of that because i dont think they should be involed either way, but if your slogan is " make AMERICA great, well thers that! And for everyone whos called me a democrat or a socialist, well, now you have your man doing it, so theres that too!

It’s called a free market because the consumer consumption sets the prices. Not the federal government. Buy American beef from local ranchers and farmers. Not from foreigners.

Just because you’re holding replacements doesn’t mean everyone is.

That’s one of reasons for low herd numbers being said across numerous ag talk shows

Most guys I know used to hold heifers back now they hold just what they need to maintain their herd.

Every one of them say they making bank while they can to make up
One guy I know well and has been in cattle all his life. He has downsized to concentrate his efforts. He’s older now concentrating simplifies his life and right now maximizing his investments. That’s another angle not discussed. How many new cattle farmers is there. Johnny told me fended pasture is going for over 5k and acre. I’d just starting out with nothing the numbers don’t jive to startup. Look at row crop land in the upper Midwest. I doesn’t make sense

I’d say that’s another replacement rate to be considered.

My nieces husband and family used to run a large operation. Now they’re down to around 20 head and maintain that because farm taxes are much cheaper than prime real estate for development. They turned their pastures into lots and have made serious bank. That’s another factor as to why herd numbers are trending downward.

This is also a liberals dream. Don’t they want lower cattle numbers to fight global warming

Ag Commodities are far from free a free market
Look at grain markets and all the governmental intrusion around the world.
Some subsidies exist but nothing like it once was

The one guy posting on a forum , was in reference to me, so i addressed you first comment. People smalling down because of their age, has nothing to do with the market or prices. As i stated its a complex issue, but the public is definitely not getting the whole story. Just the narrative your king wants you have!

Here’s another factor
I sat in an audience and listened to a guy that ran this operation
They imported so many calves from outside of the country. He called them by their origin. Buyers bought from all over. Mexicans, Hawaiians, wherever. Now they’re no longer cause the borders have closed down. Now only raised in America are bing finished. Not sure about carcasses if they allowed to be imported. I’d assume so with this hamburger meat.



Slaughter beef has to be inspected for age as to whether meat can contain spinal or bone. Older than I think 33 months the meat has to be off the bone

We agree, it’s a myriad of reasons.

How Many head do you run I know a few running over 1000. I’d say they might have an idea

Whos inspecting that in Argentina? And how do you tell, once its boxed or ground into hamburger? Just one more regulation that adds to the costs here!

I agree
We don’t know
Just like walmart was known to be selling Mexican beef

That’s a global issue

When I buy beef it’s sourced here in Alabama or so says the butcher.

My brother buys halves and he talks about all the hamburger he gets. I offered to buy what he didn’t want

A simple rhetorical question

Now is Trump allowing the mass influx of hamburger meat to offset the loss of importation of cattle we once had????

Or is this a simply a tit for tat orange man bad leftist narrative?

As ive stated before, i dont single out trump. Ive stated several times, theyre all the same as far as im concerned. The government creates a problem. Ie. Fuel prices and fertilizer prices. Then they say look over here, beef prices. Then they say only we can fix this. Then they, continue to eff it up more. Its an endless cycle, that continues no matter whos elected. And the narrative fits any topic you want to bring up. The real solution is get them out, out of everything. I know thats not gonna happen. So the next step is get out of whatever you can personally. I dont worry about beef or pork, or food prices in general. It is very inconvenient, and alot of unpaid hard work for me to do this. But its my choice. As far as beef is concerned, the herd didnt just become this small last week. I beleive with my whole heart, the beef thing is being pushed by foreign lobbists, because THEY can make more money from imported beef. Dont think for a minute if they can sell for half price they will, just to help you out. Once its opened, itll never be closed. As far as usda inspection, if its really about safety, why isnt it important for these other countries to be held accountable. They'll tell you they are, but if you just stop and think about it, you really know better!

I was referencing the 300000 metric tons narrative

Believe it or not I agree with your last post

It’s their world and we’re just living in it

I'd almost believe that actual economic data if it didn't come from that clear attention whore! Besides, I hear he is completely antiseptic.

If a man had 5 acres fenced and wanted to keep 2 or 3 cows for beef, how old is the oldest beef cow before you would no longer want it for butchering?

The US consumes about 12.6 million metric tons of beef a year. Introducing 300,000 metric tons (2.3% of the total consumption) at a 25% below market value price would only drive grocery store beef prices down 0.6%. So according to AI, it would save us about .25 a pound on average.

I already feel richer.

But the narrative garnered attention and point made

That’s the problem with all this rhetoric