Originally Posted by Irishguy
I check myself when I begin to think that "Christians" have the moral high ground over anyone. I have been to many different countries, I have worked with lots of people in engineering, Muslims, Hindus, Chinese atheists and I have met many of those people. Many I have befriended and I have I felt I could always count on them to "do the right thing" regardless of their religious or non-religious affiliation.

Our youngest Irish Jr. is an agnostic, meaning he's not an atheist, but he is a seeker for the truth and just hasn't settled on it yet. All our other children are Christians and yet he is the one we can always count on to do the right thing. His current girlfriend and probably soon to be our daughter in law is Chinese. Born and raised under Communism and never exposed to Western Style Christianity like all of us have, so she is an Atheist from birth. She is an extremely kind, loving an very moral person. I will welcome her into our family when and if that time comes.

On the other hand I have met lots of "Christians" in my lifetime, including some very religious "Christians" who have been some of the worst people I have ever known. People that had some of the worst situational ethics you could ever imagine. Perhaps some Christians think they get a pass and they can do the wrong thing when the situation suits them because they are forgiven.

Christianity has no monopoly on morality. What we have is Grace, Mercy and Forgiveness through faith and acceptance in God's Grace through Jesus Christ's ultimate sacrifice. That's what we need to understand... God asks us to be humble in our faith.

Micah 6:8 "He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God"

James 4:6 and 1 Peter 5:5 both quote Proverbs 3:34 to share the exact same core truth: "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble." Both New Testament passages use this shared Old Testament principle to teach that pride invites God's resistance, while humility opens the door to His unearned favor and help.
If we look back, some of the people who shaped and wrote the Bible had their faults and would be judged as horrible people. David committed adultery and had a man killed to cover it up, yet he is referred to as being a man after God's own heart. Solomon lived an extravagant life and messed around with thousands of women but is known as one of the wisest men to live and wrote Proverbs. Paul, to put it bluntly, was a murderer of Christians but he accounts for 13 books of the New Testament.


The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.