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Are there any that are worth a damn anymore? Anything newer than 2020? Genuinely asking. Current Chevy is very unreliable (2022). Looking to trade it in on something but I keep hearing horror stories about every brand (including Toyota). Thought about jumping up to a 2500 for something built sturdier but still hearing bad things across the board. Dealership service department isn’t helping my mood. This is going to be my 3rd visit in 4 months for the same problem (when I can get this piece of crap to actually start).

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Buy whatever was the last year Tundra with the 5.7....I think 2021. You should still be able to find plenty in the 70-80k mile range


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I worked construction for 35 years, 10 years in the USMC prior to that. How do you work out of a truck that you need a ladder to get tool and material out of the bed??? I think it's for the upper class that want to be manly men but have never had a set of tools on or worked on a job site.

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F150s are still awesome trucks. 2.7 liter v6 is a bad dude!!, last 3 fords I habe owned have run for at least 250,000 miles. Sold one with 311,000 on it. Got 190,000 on my current one and its going strong

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I’ve just never had an issue with GM trucks and I’ve owned 15-20 at a time. You can get a good and bad in anything but I think about any brand will give you 2-300000 miles on average if you take care of it.

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Originally Posted by hoggin
I’ve just never had an issue with GM trucks and I’ve owned 15-20 at a time. You can get a good and bad in anything but I think about any brand will give you 2-300000 miles on average if you take care of it.
I’ve got Chevy/GMC trucks mostly. Three of them range from 148,000 to 370,000 miles. Got a 98 Dodge with 240,000 miles. Routine maintenance and repair what needs fixing.


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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Buy whatever was the last year Tundra with the 5.7....I think 2021. You should still be able to find plenty in the 70-80k mile range
^^^ This. Right now I would not buy any car or truck newer than 2020. Most of the trucks including Toyota have either engine or transmission design or manufacturing issues. The cars are dangerous maintenance wise since they replaced the whole dash with the nav/head unit electronics assy. Anything goes wrong and it costs $4k r replace everything. I believe this head unit issue affects trucks as well.



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Originally Posted by Rocket62
Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Buy whatever was the last year Tundra with the 5.7....I think 2021. You should still be able to find plenty in the 70-80k mile range
^^^ This. Right now I would not buy any car or truck newer than 2020. Most of the trucks including Toyota have either engine or transmission design or manufacturing issues. The cars are dangerous maintenance wise since they replaced the whole dash with the nav/head unit electronics assy. Anything goes wrong and it costs $4k r replace everything. I believe this head unit issue affects trucks as well.


I think I posted my story on here about my 2018 Ram 1500. The touch screen was going out and randomly pressing buttons. It doesn't sound like a big deal until you understand that that screen controlled all kinds of stuff on the truck including the HVAC system. The dealer in Fort payne wanted $3000 to fix it. I'm like, "F*&%k that!"

I bought a new screen on Amazon for $129, took the dash apart and replaced it in about 30 minutes.

There's a reason people call them "Stealerships."


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It’s great that “routine maintenance will solve all your problems”. Only I’ve kept up with every bit of maintenance (done at professional shops to avoid any warranty issues). Drives on the highway 90% of the time and it gets babied any time it’s on a field edge or bumpy driveway. Just had it towed back to the dealership. I’m tired of spending my days off at this place. Also not a fan of making payments on a paperweight. If I didn’t need something to pull my tractor with, I’d find an old Tacoma again.

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Get the 3/4ton 6.6L gas GM with the Allison transmission

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IMO, a 5.0L F150 is the most reliable half ton truck since the Tundras changed.

I currently have a 2013 (285k miles) and a 2023 (90k miles). Had another 2013, sold it around 260k miles because it started randomly losing power and the mechanic couldn't figure it out. Had a 2016 that I sold at 120k miles with no issues. Standard maintenance on all those, no issues/repairs other than the one I mentioned.

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Originally Posted by El_Matador
It’s great that “routine maintenance will solve all your problems”. Only I’ve kept up with every bit of maintenance (done at professional shops to avoid any warranty issues). Drives on the highway 90% of the time and it gets babied any time it’s on a field edge or bumpy driveway. Just had it towed back to the dealership. I’m tired of spending my days off at this place. Also not a fan of making payments on a paperweight. If I didn’t need something to pull my tractor with, I’d find an old Tacoma again.


What issues are you having

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Originally Posted by Atoler
IMO, a 5.0L F150 is the most reliable half ton truck since the Tundras changed.

I currently have a 2013 (285k miles) and a 2023 (90k miles). Had another 2013, sold it around 260k miles because it started randomly losing power and the mechanic couldn't figure it out. Had a 2016 that I sold at 120k miles with no issues. Standard maintenance on all those, no issues/repairs other than the one I mentioned.
Out of curiosity, when you say "randomly lose power", would it basically idle all the way down until it shut off? Usually at a stoplight? But then crank back up?

Mine did that about 2-3 times/year for a few years. Finally, Spring 2025, it died and wouldn't crank up. It was the fuel pump. And the fuel pump in that truck is an absolute SOB to change. It's in the tank, so your choices are pull the bed or drop the tank.

There are either 6 or 8 bolts holding the bed on - they're huge torx head bolts. But the problem is that the nut is tack-welded on the inside of the fully enclosed frame and you'll almost NEVER get all of them out without at least one nut breaking loose and spinning inside the frame. So then you gotta cut the bolt, then you gotta cut the frame open and re-weld a new nut, then weld the frame back closed.

All of that is to say, dropping the tank is the easier route....but then, it's a SOB too....there are connections that have to be disconnected in order to drop the tank, but you pretty much have to drop the tank to get to them (catch-22). And inevitably, the fuel pump will die when you've got a full tank and it weighs 17,000 pounds


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Get the 3/4ton 6.6L gas GM with the Allison transmission

I've got a 2023 3500 dually with the gas engine. It's been trouble free for 125k miles, but it sure does suck pulling a load vs. a diesel.

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Originally Posted by Atoler
IMO, a 5.0L F150 is the most reliable half ton truck since the Tundras changed.

I currently have a 2013 (285k miles) and a 2023 (90k miles). Had another 2013, sold it around 260k miles because it started randomly losing power and the mechanic couldn't figure it out. Had a 2016 that I sold at 120k miles with no issues. Standard maintenance on all those, no issues/repairs other than the one I mentioned.
Out of curiosity, when you say "randomly lose power", would it basically idle all the way down until it shut off? Usually at a stoplight? But then crank back up?

Mine did that about 2-3 times/year for a few years. Finally, Spring 2025, it died and wouldn't crank up. It was the fuel pump. And the fuel pump in that truck is an absolute SOB to change. It's in the tank, so your choices are pull the bed or drop the tank.

There are either 6 or 8 bolts holding the bed on - they're huge torx head bolts. But the problem is that the nut is tack-welded on the inside of the fully enclosed frame and you'll almost NEVER get all of them out without at least one nut breaking loose and spinning inside the frame. So then you gotta cut the bolt, then you gotta cut the frame open and re-weld a new nut, then weld the frame back closed.

All of that is to say, dropping the tank is the easier route....but then, it's a SOB too....there are connections that have to be disconnected in order to drop the tank, but you pretty much have to drop the tank to get to them (catch-22). And inevitably, the fuel pump will die when you've got a full tank and it weighs 17,000 pounds

That sounds like a disaster.

This was some kind of electrical issue I believe. My tech would be driving down the road & it would randomly just lose acceleration. He'd pull over, turn it off, turn it back on, and go another few weeks before it happened again. Ford claimed it needed some software update, didn't seem to help after they did it. So we just got rid of it.

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The worst has been the crank, no start issue. After over 3 hours today, I had it towed. This has been “fixed” twice before claiming it’s a fuel pump pressure control module. But it continues to give me issues.

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6.6 gas 2500. Get a low trim package and there ain’t much electrical as compared to anything else new

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Originally Posted by Atoler
That sounds like a disaster.

This was some kind of electrical issue I believe. My tech would be driving down the road & it would randomly just lose acceleration. He'd pull over, turn it off, turn it back on, and go another few weeks before it happened again. Ford claimed it needed some software update, didn't seem to help after they did it. So we just got rid of it.
Yeah...even worse, the new fuel pump crapped the bed 12hrs after I got it back and had to have another put in it. To my shop's credit, they replaced the new-but-bad one no questions asked and even paid to have it towed from my house to their shop. I asked if it was common for brand new ones to be bad....he said you'd be shocked how many brand new ones (even OEM) are bad right out of the box or go bad almost immediately because even the OEM stuff is all from China.

The 2nd one they put in has been good for a year and a half, though....so hopefully it'll last a while. Admittedly I was always bad about running my truck until it was on E, which I now know is bad for them - can overheat a fuel pump. I now NEVER let it get below a 1/4 tank and usually try to fill up as soon as I get down to 1/2.


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Originally Posted by El_Matador
The worst has been the crank, no start issue. After over 3 hours today, I had it towed. This has been “fixed” twice before claiming it’s a fuel pump pressure control module. But it continues to give me issues.

Lemon law?

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Originally Posted by Atoler
IMO, a 5.0L F150 is the most reliable half ton truck since the Tundras changed.

I currently have a 2013 (285k miles) and a 2023 (90k miles). Had another 2013, sold it around 260k miles because it started randomly losing power and the mechanic couldn't figure it out. Had a 2016 that I sold at 120k miles with no issues. Standard maintenance on all those, no issues/repairs other than the one I mentioned.

My 13 f150 just rolled over 80,000. I hope it goes far as yours did. I like that 5.0, pretty preppy on power.

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