irish ,predestination is Bibical but not in the calvinistic pagan fatalistic sense.

what does the text SAY?

eph 1:4 according as He hath chosen us IN HIM before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and without blame
before Him in love.
v5
having predestined us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself
according to the good pleasure of His will.

in other words God predestined all those who put thier trust in Christ
would be holy and without blame and He chose to predestin all those who put thier trust in Christ to be His children.

v12 that we should be to the praise of His glory who FIRST TRUSTED IN CHRIST.

calvinistic predestination is greek platonic fatalism and is there fore false.

election is always to SERVICE not SALVATION.

Last edited by mathews prostaff; 08/03/26 04:11 PM.