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Trump just called Iran duplicitous, but we attacked them during negotiations and Iran says there were no new negotiations or deal going on at all.... so round and round we go.... here is his post today.
Iranian Leadership is unbelievably duplicitous! They ask for a meeting, some would say “beg,” talks begin, with more scheduled in the immediate future, and they say, openly and proudly, that they’re not having any discussions, that nothing is being talked about, and they’re only dealing with “Oman.” They then go on to give their usual blather in saying, the Strait of Hormuz will be operated powerfully by them, when it is already completely controlled by the United States Navy and our “Blockade” or, as some say, “The United States Wall of Steel!” Nothing gets through to Iran, unless we want it to, and nothing will get through, unless a Deal, or Total Surrender, is accomplished. Whether Iran wants to admit it or not, we are, in fact, talking of a solution to a problem that they have caused, for decades. It is very simple, IRAN WILL NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP
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When it started I stated it had to be regime change or nothing. There is no in-between. As long as they are alive and in control then there will be no "deal"
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Trump just called Iran duplicitous, but we attacked them during negotiations and Iran says there were no new negotiations or deal going on at all.... so round and round we go.... here is his post today.
Iranian Leadership is unbelievably duplicitous! They ask for a meeting, some would say “beg,” talks begin, with more scheduled in the immediate future, and they say, openly and proudly, that they’re not having any discussions, that nothing is being talked about, and they’re only dealing with “Oman.” They then go on to give their usual blather in saying, the Strait of Hormuz will be operated powerfully by them, when it is already completely controlled by the United States Navy and our “Blockade” or, as some say, “The United States Wall of Steel!” Nothing gets through to Iran, unless we want it to, and nothing will get through, unless a Deal, or Total Surrender, is accomplished. Whether Iran wants to admit it or not, we are, in fact, talking of a solution to a problem that they have caused, for decades. It is very simple, IRAN WILL NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP
Trump needs to quit flapping his gums and start taking out big numbers of IRGC personnel along with big chunks of the Iran's power grid and oil infrastructure. He started it, we're in it now. Now that he's in it, he needs to just finish it like one big fireworks grand finale, smile and walk away. It's always been US policy not to negotiate with terrorists, so why should we start now?
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Trump just called Iran duplicitous, but we attacked them during negotiations and Iran says there were no new negotiations or deal going on at all.... so round and round we go.... here is his post today.
Iranian Leadership is unbelievably duplicitous! They ask for a meeting, some would say “beg,” talks begin, with more scheduled in the immediate future, and they say, openly and proudly, that they’re not having any discussions, that nothing is being talked about, and they’re only dealing with “Oman.” They then go on to give their usual blather in saying, the Strait of Hormuz will be operated powerfully by them, when it is already completely controlled by the United States Navy and our “Blockade” or, as some say, “The United States Wall of Steel!” Nothing gets through to Iran, unless we want it to, and nothing will get through, unless a Deal, or Total Surrender, is accomplished. Whether Iran wants to admit it or not, we are, in fact, talking of a solution to a problem that they have caused, for decades. It is very simple, IRAN WILL NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP
Trump needs to quit flapping his gums and start taking out big numbers of IRGC personnel along with big chunks of the Iran's power grid and oil infrastructure. He started it, we're in it now. Now that he's in it, he needs to just finish it like one big fireworks grand finale, smile and walk away. It's always been US policy not to negotiate with terrorists, so why should we start now? There aint no long term big money to be made by doing that. If he glassed the place then the big money would just be lotto ticket one and done money.
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When it started I stated it had to be regime change or nothing. There is no in-between. As long as they are alive and in control then there will be no "deal" He could have killed many of them, at the funeral for the leader they had (that had been killed). Drone would have taken care of many of the so called leaders.
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When it started I stated it had to be regime change or nothing. There is no in-between. As long as they are alive and in control then there will be no "deal" We’ve never successfully had a regime change we just trade one bad guy for another. We need to mind our own business. We always get tied up in wars we don’t need to be in, in the name of justice for somebody. All we accomplish is killing American soldiers to make some politician rich. We need to quit being the world’s police. Trump started out being America first and now I’m not sure what he’s doing but he’s turning into a great politician.
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Japan and Germany and Italy along with others had regime changes that ended up much better
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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We also fought to win that war. We haven’t since. We go in half cocked and don’t let our military do their job. So in the last 90 years we have had one successful war. So yes we are wildly unsuccessful at regime change
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We also fought to win that war. We haven’t since. We go in half cocked and don’t let our military do their job. So in the last 90 years we have had one successful war. So yes we are wildly unsuccessful at regime change There is more easy money to be made from waging war than winning it. If you actually win the war then you have to pay for it, that was the lesson of WWII.
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Breaking….TIFWIW: from Aljazeera.
BREAKING: Israeli media, citing unnamed Israeli sources, reports that US President Donald Trump and his advisers are seeking a deal with Iran "at any cost".
The report says Israel is not receiving direct updates from Washington on the negotiations and is instead obtaining most information indirectly.
🔴 More on Aljazeera.com
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meanwhile Iran says...
BREAKING: Iran has abandoned the current Omani proposal for the Strait of Hormuz, officially adding new demands, per WSJ:
1. An immediate end to the US naval blockade
2. The lifting of all US sanctions on Iranian oil, petrochemical products, and gas
3. An explicit acknowledgement of Iran's right to collect maritime fees on every ship
4. The end of all attacks on Iran permanently by all parties
These new demands come on top of the current arrangement, which gives Iran full sovereign control over inbound traffic into the Strait of Hormuz, and supervision over outbound traffic through Omani waters.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
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The Iranians added the whole concept of fees through the straight, just months ago.
They are good negotiators, considering their position.
I'm telling you, we fucked up back in the 50's. We could have had those guys as allies over there.
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What’s the rumor about Democrats providing information to Iran about planned attacks
Just saw it on X
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What’s the rumor about Democrats providing information to Iran about planned attacks
Just saw it on X That's just more media political crap. If any service member or Pentagon official is leaking info to Iran about planned attacks then they will be taken care of accordingly. That kind of thing has been going on since war was invented.
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Markets are eating this candy. BREAKING: The US and Iran are closing in on an interim agreement brokered by Oman to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, with the US aiming for an announcement on Wednesday, per Axios. https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2084829833922523364
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Breaking this and breaking that. Buncha BS.
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Breaking this and breaking that. Buncha BS. Yup, but the money changers can't seem to get enough of it. Which is what all of it really is.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
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Breaking this and breaking that. Buncha BS. Yup, but the money changers can't seem to get enough of it. Which is what all of it really is. Yeah, I guess the folks at the X, NYT's, Washington Post, CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC have to make a living somehow.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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