Originally Posted by bowhunter86
Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by bowhunter86
Originally Posted by Irishguy
It is an age old question that has been debated for a very long time...

Where does "God's will" end and "Free will" begin? If God is all knowing does that mean that events are predetermined? If events are predetermined then where does free will come into the picture?

I personally believe that events are not predetermined, because if they were, then what would be the point of this entire existence in which we are participating. I believe God places our consciousness in our current forms, gives us guidance through the Holy Spirit and the scripture and turns us loose in this experience to see how we will do. We in turn largely create our own reality, our own happiness, our own success and our own failures.

“The plans of the heart belong to man, but the answer of the tongue is from the Lord.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭16‬:‭1‬ ‭

“The heart of man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭16‬:‭9‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭11 ESV

“For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭10‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭46‬:‭9‬-‭10‬ ‭ESV‬‬

““For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counselor?””
‭‭Romans‬ ‭11‬:‭34‬ ‭ESV‬‬


So what is the summary of your understanding of those versus?

What’s yours?

I ask you first because you posted them. Do you have your own interpretation of those scriptures? I've already stated that I don't believe in predestination.


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