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Originally Posted by cartervj
Read somewhere that Flock has ties with several doorbell companies cameras. So they’re gathering information not just from Flock cameras. If you’re on any digital device your information is being gathered and assimilated for whatever purposes. Your phone is talking to your car, your puter, your work puter, your credit/debit card I’m pretty certain your bank and your debt ratio. Your purchasing habitats etc……

Welcome to the digital age.

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Well, it may not do one bit of good, but I bought 4 anti-flock tag covers and installed them today. They may track me, but I'm not gonna make it easy on them

if the cops see them or pull you over; they will make you remove them or ticket of $25-100

Clear covers, no way to know they aren't just a plain cover. And Fug em. There's no law says I have to let cameras track me. They can kiss my ass.


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Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
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Well, it may not do one bit of good, but I bought 4 anti-flock tag covers and installed them today. They may track me, but I'm not gonna make it easy on them

if the cops see them or pull you over; they will make you remove them or ticket of $25-100

Clear covers, no way to know they aren't just a plain cover. And Fug em. There's no law says I have to let cameras track me. They can kiss my ass.
I got pulled over years ago(pre-flock); the vehicle I bought had tag frame with clear covers to keep the tag clean(I thought) . Never thought anything about it. I was instructed to remove them; now. Any cover is illegal. Cops can't read them at night, I think.

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How long have flock cameras been around and why just now is it a thing?a


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Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
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Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
Well, it may not do one bit of good, but I bought 4 anti-flock tag covers and installed them today. They may track me, but I'm not gonna make it easy on them

if the cops see them or pull you over; they will make you remove them or ticket of $25-100

And Fug em. There's no law says I have to let cameras track me. They can kiss my ass.

Surprisingly (sarcasm), there actually is. It's law in every state and municipality. It's almost like they knew there would be pushback and passed the laws before it could even be challenged.


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Well, it may not do one bit of good, but I bought 4 anti-flock tag covers and installed them today. They may track me, but I'm not gonna make it easy on them

if the cops see them or pull you over; they will make you remove them or ticket of $25-100

And Fug em. There's no law says I have to let cameras track me. They can kiss my ass.

Surprisingly (sarcasm), there actually is. It's law in every state and municipality. It's almost like they knew there would be pushback and passed the laws before it could even be challenged.

Been law in Alabama long before Flock cameras; I was pulled over at least 15; maybe 20 years ago. I think because they interfere with the reflective design of the tag at night.

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How long have flock cameras been around and why just now is it a thing?a

They have been around since 2018, but back then they were only license plate readers without AI profiling. They originally sold most of them to HOAs and private businesses, which created a nationwide surveillance grid that law enforcement now takes advantage of. The system upgraded to continuous live streams in 2023, real-time pedestrian tracking in 2024, and automated drone deployment in 2025. Supposedly there are between 80,000 and 100,000 in operation in the US

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Originally Posted by rhino21
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How long have flock cameras been around and why just now is it a thing?a

They have been around since 2018, but back then they were only license plate readers without AI profiling. They originally sold most of them to HOAs and private businesses, which created a nationwide surveillance grid that law enforcement now takes advantage of. The system upgraded to continuous live streams in 2023, real-time pedestrian tracking in 2024, and automated drone deployment in 2025. Supposedly there are between 80,000 and 100,000 in operation in the US


So now is the time to protest them instead of years ago

That’s kinda my point. Why now?

If surveillance was truly the why now we’ve missed numerous systems for decades that have surveilled us

Who’s driving the looks here looky there


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Axon is pushing Flock out of the surveillance business. They are the far more dangerous company. Mass surveillance of the general population should be a crime and we really need constitutional protections against it.


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A cannabis dispensary in Michigan responded to a flock camera that was put up to watch who was coming and going into their parking lot. https://x.com/OrwellDay/status/2082988915623915897


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How long have flock cameras been around and why just now is it a thing?a

They have been around since 2018, but back then they were only license plate readers without AI profiling. They originally sold most of them to HOAs and private businesses, which created a nationwide surveillance grid that law enforcement now takes advantage of. The system upgraded to continuous live streams in 2023, real-time pedestrian tracking in 2024, and automated drone deployment in 2025. Supposedly there are between 80,000 and 100,000 in operation in the US


So now is the time to protest them instead of years ago

That’s kinda my point. Why now?

If surveillance was truly the why now we’ve missed numerous systems for decades that have surveilled us

Who’s driving the looks here looky there

I agree that we should have given more pushback with all of it, especially with the Patriot Act. They have slow walked us into this for years, and the flock is coming home to roost now.

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Originally Posted by rhino21
Originally Posted by cartervj
How long have flock cameras been around and why just now is it a thing?a

They have been around since 2018, but back then they were only license plate readers without AI profiling. They originally sold most of them to HOAs and private businesses, which created a nationwide surveillance grid that law enforcement now takes advantage of. The system upgraded to continuous live streams in 2023, real-time pedestrian tracking in 2024, and automated drone deployment in 2025. Supposedly there are between 80,000 and 100,000 in operation in the US

According to Deflock, there’s 123,000 cameras
I personally know of several in my local area that aren’t marked so the actual national number is likely 125,000-130,000 nationwide right now.

But that is all brands of ALPR’s not just Flock I believe

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Somebody posted on local "Nextdoor" (take it for what it's worth) that there are 36 Flocks in lil ol' Starkpatch Miss'ippi. It doesn't surprise me that they're here, as much as there are only 36 around town. It may be the "watch" cameras set up all over with the red/blue flashing lights on them, they're talking about. PD and mayor say they are ONLY to be used in case of wrecks in question of fault, questions in investigations on incidents that occurred in the area, etc....not "speeding" or "red light" or "watching you" cameras. Sure, sure, sure....


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Originally Posted by donia
Somebody posted on local "Nextdoor" (take it for what it's worth) that there are 36 Flocks in lil ol' Starkpatch Miss'ippi. It doesn't surprise me that they're here, as much as there are only 36 around town. It may be the "watch" cameras set up all over with the red/blue flashing lights on them, they're talking about. PD and mayor say they are ONLY to be used in case of wrecks in question of fault, questions in investigations on incidents that occurred in the area, etc....not "speeding" or "red light" or "watching you" cameras. Sure, sure, sure....

According to Deflock it’s showing 21 in Starkville, that’s not to say it’s not missing a few but I wouldn’t think it’s missing 14.
Give it 18 months and you’ll be at 35+

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Originally Posted by AU7MM08
Originally Posted by donia
Somebody posted on local "Nextdoor" (take it for what it's worth) that there are 36 Flocks in lil ol' Starkpatch Miss'ippi. It doesn't surprise me that they're here, as much as there are only 36 around town. It may be the "watch" cameras set up all over with the red/blue flashing lights on them, they're talking about. PD and mayor say they are ONLY to be used in case of wrecks in question of fault, questions in investigations on incidents that occurred in the area, etc....not "speeding" or "red light" or "watching you" cameras. Sure, sure, sure....

According to Deflock it’s showing 21 in Starkville, that’s not to say it’s not missing a few but I wouldn’t think it’s missing 14.
Give it 18 months and you’ll be at 35+

Dollar General is considering a contract with Flock to put them up in all of their parking lots.


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